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Self Catering recommendations?


Hello Michelle,
I am traveling to Ireland with two friends in late Sept/early Oct of this year.  We'll be staying for one week.  We're thinking that the self catering route is the way to go.  My family is from County Cork, so that's where we plan on spending most of our time, although many have suggested traveling to the west coast, as well.

We'd like a VERY comfortable place with all of the amenities and we each want our own bedroom.  We'd like our own bathrooms, too, if possible. 

Our (mostly to still be created) agenda so far is:  Relax!  Experience the people and culture.  Eat good food.  Drink!  Take our time.  See Jamiesons, the Waterford Crystal factory.  Landmarks & museums.

I have a cassette tape made in the 70's of my Grandfather (from Cork) singing, "It's a Long Way to Tipperary"--should we go to Tipperary just for this reason?

Do you have any suggestions on accommodations and/or things to see?

BTW, thanks for your book--great info already, and I've just started reading!

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Caryn,

I have a few self-catering places recommended in my book. I have recently started focusing on them so don't have a load to recommend. I just took a look and I have none in Cork.

Have you viewed my self-catering page? It will fill you in with lots of info. Most self-catering rents from Sat-Sat. However, off-season they are more open to renting at other times. Check with www.dreamireland.com Also look at my links page where I have other links to rentals. I also find that just doing a Google search with something like "cork self-catering rentals" does the trick.

Once you look at the websites you will have a better idea which self-catering place will suit your needs. Happy hunting. 

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This is great, Michele.  Thank you very much!

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Caryn,

Though I have not stayed in them, I have heard wonderful things about Carelton Village outside of Youghal. There is also Croughmore, in which I have stayed and have recommended to several other posters here, in Mitchelstown. Croughmore is well situated to exploring both Cork and Kerry. I just received a letter, an honest to goodness hand-written letter, from one of the posters who is over in Ireland now. She advised me that they have refurbished and added on to Croughmore but that it is still traditional in its outward appearance and its feel. They found it to be quite the find and I am glad that they enjoyed it.

I hope these will give you a footing in your search.

Slan Beo (Take Care),   Bit

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Caryn,

Along with Michele's sites, I looked up http://www.selfcatering-ireland.com/ . She is so right (as always ) I just google for self-catering Ireland. I've never self-catered but in research for other accommodations I've noticed the better self-catering places have 4 stars. I'm sure with research you can find what you want. Don't settle for less, well maybe not as many baths but I bet you can find what you want or close to it.

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Carny,
It's me again. I hate giving out wrong info. I noticed on one of Bit's sites, there is a 5 star on self-catering.
My bad. Joan

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Joan, 

Not wrong info at all. It is a bit crazy but the Republic of Ireland rates self-catering from 1 to 4 stars. Northern Ireland rates them 1 to 5 stars. 

I saw that Carleton Village mentions 5 star standard. But they do not say they are rated 5 stars. If you look at the rating on Tourism Ireland it says 4 stars. It is all in the wording!
 http://www.discoverireland.com/us/accommodation/listings/product/?fid=FI_56629

Are we confused yet? confused

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Having not visited the Carelton Village yet, I have to go on word of mouth. The friends who stayed there are the type of people who only stay in places like the Ritz carleton or other upscale places. They took copious notes and brought them home as "gift" for my research files. One note, "Hallelujiah, Hot Water!!!" would lead me to believe that they had not had hot water for showers in their last lodgings before the Carelton.

It is indeed all in the wording and the marketing, as well. All of that for naught if you don't have the quality of service to back it up. I quit going by ratings after that horrible Co. Mayo B&B experience that I have mentioned before. They had a four star rating and numerous awards. weirdface

How do they decide on their ratings as a norm, Michele? I have been asked before. Do you know?

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Wow! Thank you for all the generous information!  I really appreciate ALL of the support from all of you!

Bit, thank you for suggesting the Croughmore in Mitchelstown.  Apparently this is where my ancestors are originally from, WAY back in time.  I'll definitely be considering this one!  I had no idea!  (It's almost scary that you've suggested this!)

Thank you again, to all of you for your generosity. 

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Caryn,

Youngka, another member of this forum, has justed stayed at Croughmore. It was from her that I received the letter. She said that they almost hated to leave the cottage to make daytrips. It feels as if you are stepping back in time. I really enjoyed my stay there four years ago. It is one of my two most favorite self-catering cottages in all of Ireland.

The second is another thatched cottage in Ballybritas, abbeyview cottage, which is purported to be the oldest, continuously inhabited thatched cottage in Ireland. Abbeyview was carbon-dated to 1468. It is well off the beaten track but I loved my week ther, as well.Again, like Croughmore, it was very welcoming.

That you have roots in the area is very interesting, to be sure.

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Caryn,

From reading your first post, I understand you want comfort and location. Don't give up the comfort for location. I'm sure there are many very nice rentals in Cork with views, good beds and baths. You know, I think of a really lovely place just over in Kerry. Sheen Falls Hotel in Kenmare, they have lovely rentals. The Village that Bit mentions looks rather nice. Also google Manor House rentals. Keep us posted!

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Caryn, 

What is your budget? I have some fabulous places bookmarked (haven't stayed yet) but some are very expensive. These are some:

http://www.tragretreat.com/
http://glengarriff-lodge.com/
http://www.inishbeg.com/

Michele

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Bit,

Bord Failte has been in charge of inspecting B&Bs, hotels, guesthouses and self-catering in Ireland. They source it out to inspection companies. Recently they decided to abdicate the responsibility. It should be interesting to see what happens. 

Some of the info below may be of interest to you.

Michele

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Fáilte Ireland Appoints New Registration and Classification Company
Following a tender process Fáilte Ireland has awarded the contract for inspection, registration and classification of accommodation to Tourism Accommodation Management Services Limited, (TAMS) from 1 June 2005 to 31 May 2010. The company has its headquarters at 56 Drury Street, Dublin 2. Contact: John Farrell, Director, Tel: (01) 617 9292.

The contract is for the inspection, registration and classification of hotels, guesthouses, holiday hostels, youth hostels, holiday camps, caravan and camping sites, holiday cottages and holiday apartments.

Fáilte Ireland Re-Appoints Listing and Approval Company
Following a tender process Fáilte Ireland has awarded the contract for inspection and approval of listed accommodation to Tourism Accommodation Approvals Limited (TAA) for a second term from 1 June 2005 to 31 May 2010. The company has its headquarters at Coolcholly, Ballyshannon, Co. Donegal. The Directors are Mary and Patrick McGee, Tel: (071) 985 2760.

The contract is for the inspection, approval and listing of Town Homes, Country Homes, Farmhouses, Historic Houses, Pubs with Accommodation, and Restaurants with Accommodation, Activity Centres, Health Farms, and Language School Accommodation.

Fáilte Ireland sets the policy and framework under which the sub-contractors operate. It also monitors the performance of the contractors in implementing the Fáilte Ireland requirements.

Further information from:
Douglas Jordan
Registrar and Manager - Quality and Standards
Fáilte Ireland
Tel:(01) 602 4124
Email:
douglas.jordan@failteireland.ie
 

http://www.hotelstars.ie/news.html

http://corkkerryholidayhomes.com/booking-conditions.php

http://www.performanceplus.ireland.ie/home/index.aspx?id=234

"the approval and inspection functions were outsourced to recognised self-regulatory bodies within the industry itself. Currently, three separate companies carry out these functions for different sections of the bed and breakfast sector. Having reviewed these arrangements, Bord Fáilte has launched a tender process for the award of the new contract for inspection and approval. Bord Fáilte currently has the role of ensuring that appropriate standards are set for the industry."http://www.irlgov.ie/debates-00/8march/sect3.htm



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Go Raibh Mil Maith Agat, Michele,

I now have some reading to do! I have often wondered about the ratings systems. I wondered if the raters were trained and held to a formulmatic rating system or if it was a matter of their personal tastes.

I have stayed in higher rated lodgings, with "all the creature conforts" only to awaken miserable from a bed that was either much too firm, much too lumpy, or much too something. I have been snared by the promise of "gorgeous views of the harbour" only to realize that you have to stand on a chair and look over a caravan site to see a sliver of the bay. I recall the bed in a B&B in Belfast that was said to be a "slice of orthopedic heaven", which was actually an exercise in trying avoid falling into the "pit" in the middle. That was all on the first trip I made. It was then I decided to knock on the doors of any place I found interesting on the outside, make copious notes if they offered me a tour (few refuse), and then offer help to other travelers.

Having the health issues I do, creature comforts, a good bed and a good shower, are imperative. If I can get a good night's sleep on their bed, they get a thumbs up from me. If I get breakfast served with a smile and a "look, no mushrooms have graced this plate nor anything in my kitchen this morning" and good coffee, it gets a gold star.

I often wonder though, do they have a raters school and what happens to those who flunk out?  giggle.gif

Slan Beo, Mo Chara,

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Bit,

I have encountered the same all over Ireland. It is called creative writing!

I often wonder about the AA ratings. One B&B I know wanted to go into their book and were told they would be rated 3-diamonds but after being in the book for a year or two they would bump her up to 4-diamonds. She was higly indignant that even though she had a 4-diamond B&B she had to work her way up through their system. She declined to pay to be in the book and never went into it. AA does inspections, but it does make you wonder. After all it is a business.

That is why in my book the B&Bs that I review are places that I actually stay. They do not pay to get into my book or to get a link on my website. I'm with you about the creature comforts. A clean room, comfortable bed, good night's sleep, nice shower and breakfast are all very importatant. My husband often complains that I am very "fussy". I was born fussy, as my mother can attest to. Now I tell my husband that I get "paid to be fussy" from my readers who purchase my book.

That's why Melissa5 dubbed me the Goldilocks of Ireland. I go, I stay, I test, I sleep, I eat and I rate.

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Dia Duit Michele,

"Born Fussy", I never really thought about it but so must I have been. I am the same way, for the most part. I want to have at least been inside, had a look, taken tea. I prefer to have stayed at least one night, better yet two. When I do recommend a place in which I haven't personally stayed, I always make mention and give credit to the person who has stayed. Nothing gives me more satisfaction than to have someone come back and tell me what a wonderful stay they had at some place that I recommended. The other side of that coin, when someone comes back and says that they were unhappy with their stay, gives me a nasty taste. I make a note and then, the next time I am over, make sure to stay there again. Some times it is a one of and perhaps the host was having a bad go. THere is also the point to be made that, due to a recent rise in unscrupulous guests, some hosts are becoming more jaded and guarded. Pity that. It is why I am glad for travelers to Ireland that they have you, the Goldilocks of Ireland, and a few other trusted sites that they can go to for direction.

Slan Agus Barrogs, Bit

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Bit,

On occasion I hear complaints about some of my "Quick Picks". Places that I have inspected but not yet stayed at. But rarely is there a problem with a place I have actually stayed. Especially the "old reliable" ones that I know well.

I always ask for feedback too. It is invaluable. I especially enjoy hearing back when someone has had a wonderful time at a recommended lodging.

Michele



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You have to remember - this is Ireland.

Truth is different here....

When I first came to Ireland, in Mayo, I was told that the sea and the beach were " a mile or so down the road" ...... !2 miles later I was still driving and no

You cannot believe a word that is said; believe me on that.

For creative writing see

http://homepage.eircom.net/~inissaimerisland/

We keep an eye on rentals for various reasons..

This sounded soooo peaceful. See the "more photos"

One day I was driving home through Ballyshannon town rather than on the bypass.

Just outside the town, there were massive roadworks; Dude, I thought of you when I saw the deepest hole in the road ever...

I was stuck at the traffic lights for a few minutes, and my gaze wandered as it does.

A roof just over the wall looked familiar, and I realised... Saimer Island.. Just a few yards from the main road.

The traffic noise will be horrendous

The estuary is very narrow there and the banks built up.

How they took those photos is a mystery, and when I asked around, yes, they can hardly let it because of its situation.

Ireland!!!

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Anchoress,

Whenever I look at B&B websites they always say "ten minute walk to town". Well the Irish must be the fastest walkers in the world. It is usually more like a 15 minute drive into town!

Michele



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Michele; it is the ones with pointed ears you REALLY have to watch.... They're part-leprechaun..

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Perhaps Star Trek's Mr. Spock was part leprechaun? idea

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Caryn, you have asked some very good questions. The answers can give you so much information. We always stay in self catering places because we like to cook at home and it is really fun shopping in their grocery stores, butcher shops and pastry shops. Our self catering places/houses ran about 300 euros for 7 days (Sat. a.m. to about Sat. noon). You will have to pay extra for heat and electricity, but all in all our total charge for one day ran about 45-50 dollars a day. As Bit menioned, the Coughmore shake roof house is a wonderful way to go back in time, so relaxing too. We also like our self catering place in Clifden also in the Connemara area above and west of Gallway -- stayed in a nice thatched roof place also. B&B's are wonderful, but I don't if it would be advantageous to rent for one straight week. We did enjoy the 2 we were able to stay in - one nite each B&B. Our favorite part of Ireland for the last three visits is in the area from Skibberean up to Kylemore Abby and we loved the coast line. This year, I think, all our self center houses were all
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youngka,

Welcome back from Ireland. Hope you had a good time. We would love to hear about it when you recover from your trip. I'm sure everyone would like to know the cottages you would recommend.

I read your post under Bunratty Lodge. I'm glad you enjoyed it. Getting a break on prices there is a plus as several forum members are finding out.

Michele

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We've been researching and researching! So, here's what we're thinking so far, please provide your opinions!:

We may be crazy, but we're thinking we like the looks of this place:

http://www.vrbo.com/94379

We have two key concerns about it: It's looking like the town is very much NOT "on the beaten path" which could be good, or horrible. Then, there are the mentioned chickens, which usually also implies early-morning roosters, as well! (This would be ok with us.) Do you have any feedback or info regarding Cloyne?

We think we like this location for the following things: It's near Cobh, where my relatives left Ireland. We want to see the jail & the museum. We also want to see the Waterford Crystal factory and Jameson's. It's also nearer to Mitchelstown where ancient relatives who share my last name are said to have lived in the 1100's.

It appears that we're near the Ballymaloe Cooking School, which I like as a foodie. We're intrigued by the "AGA" for cooking--this will be a new experience! This is probably a silly question, but, what do you know about the best markets in this area? Other restaurants? I read about a butter factory somewhere!

We'd like to spend some time getting to know local people in their real lives, rather than only tourist stuff.

We want a quiet, non-touristy place to stay and relax, too. We figure we can drive to do more of the tourist things, however, we may not get down to the far southern part of the country, which, perhaps could happen on the next trip.

On the other hand, there's a small voice in my head saying, GO SOUTH!

I appreciate your advice, input and feedback!



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I can't help with SPECIFICS about Cloyne, though I HAVE passed through it, enroute to Ballycotton.  I CAN comment on the general area, however...

We spent two weeks, (semi- self-catering)in June of 2000, as well as a week, in June of '04, based in a home located in Watergrasshill.  From there, we did a daytrip out to Baltimore and another as far afield as Killarney, so (depending upon the time of year) you COULD make it out to the far, SW.

We have spent a MINIMUM of 2-3 days in that area EVERY year, since 1999, so I know a lot of those roads pretty well.  My wife's cousins own a business in Midelton, so we've been there more times than I can count, as well.



Cashel and Cahir are also within reach, so I wouldn't think that you will be at a loss in order to fill your days.  That said, the VILLAGE of Cloyne is actually INLAND, a good 4 or 5 kilometers from the water, so even though the place boasts 'Sea Views', I doubt very much that you'll be taking any liesurely strolls down to the beach!  biggrin biggrin

I honestly don't remember much of the actual village of Cloyne, though, other than that I have been by/through/in at least a couple of times....

The place looks quite nice, and likely, actually IS so.  I WOULD recommend that you inquire as to the proximity of the nearest shops and pubs, as those back roads don't have street lights.  It is my considered opinion that those narrow, winding byways actually CONTRACT, once the sun ceases to warm them, thus making them even NARROWER. hmm hmm

Or, maybe it just SEEMS that way, to me...   biggrin biggrin

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Caryn,

Do you want to be way out in the countryside or near civilization? I took a look at the house and I would want to see many more photos first. Kitchen, bedroom and bathroom photos are especially important. Perhaps they can email you some if you make an inquiry. I would also want to know what their "official" star rating is.

Have a look at these: 

http://www.tragretreat.com/
http://www.inishbeg.com/
http://glengarriff-lodge.com/

Michele



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Ranges, a generic term for AGA, are great fun. We have a Stanley, which is the same thing, and burn turf in it. A few mishaps at first when it got too hot, but we have learned and now never cook on anything else. 

Enjoy it!

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Dear Caryn,

My reaction was the same as Michele's, no photo's and it did seem to be way out in the country. It might be perfect but I'd sure get more info on it. I'd be more inclined to go with one of the places Michele gave a web-sites for. She may not have stayed in one of them but she knows Ireland so very well and she has a good sense of things.

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Caryn,

I know someone who stayed at Inishbeg twice and loved it.

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Michele,
This is so funny.

I'd sent an email thru the website to the above mentioned place that we were considering (on vrbo.com,) requesting a few details and availability for the dates we want. I received a brief response that only addressed 1/2 the info I'd requested. Then, I read your advice, above, to ask for photos so I sent that email off with a request for pictures and asked a few more questions. All phrased politely and inoffensively.

I received a terse email this morning, reading: "I don't mean to be rude but I don't think it's going to work out. Regards." Giving the benefit of the doubt, perhaps they've had problems with Americans in the past?? Or, they just don't want to have to do any work to rent their property.

I think you've saved us some major difficulties, by the simple advice of telling me to ask for pictures! Thank you! NEXT!

Thank you for the links you'd suggested, above. I like the Innish Beg one. We're now back into research mode.

Caryn

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