My wife and I am planning our trip to Ireland. I have been reading and researching to prepare an itinerary. This forum is a gold mine. What has been done so far:
Guidebooks read (Michele's, Lonely Planet, Rick Steves)
Mobal world phone acquired.
Plane flights booked (Arrive the morning of May 24 and depart the morning of June 20; 27 days in country.)
Car booked with Dooley using World MC (declining CDW, hard copy showing MC coverage in hand)
Booked with Carrick Craft for a cruiser on Lough Erne and Shannon-Erne Waterway June 3-9 (7 nights)
The emphasis will be on scenery. The tentative agenda is to spend the first night in Kilkenny. Then go to Kenmare, Dingle, Doolin, and Galway for a total of nine days and nights (nights 2-10) before going to Enniskillen to get on the boat. Depart Enniskillen the morning of June 9 going back to the west and then the northwest and north for seven nights considering any thing we really wanted to do back to the south plus Westport, Derry, and somewhere on the north coast winding up in the Dublin area for the last 3 days and nights. We will use public transportation in the Dublin area turning in the car when we get to Dublin.
The number of nights in each place are not fixed yet. Our travel preference is to tour from point A to point B in a day, then tour from point B for a day or two, then tour from point B to point C in a day, then tour from point C for a day or two, and so on. We travel 4 to 6 months a year and this technique seems to work well for us.
We only want to do castles, ruins, gardens, and mansions if they are really special and the best of their kind.
I can handle driving on the left in rural areas - 6 weeks and 8 thousand km in New Zealand. According to their signage, the road are not narrow, the vehicles are wide.
So I will consider any advice on where and how long, what to do and see, scenic drives or drives to scenery (important). After the day is over, i would like to have the energy left to go hear music in the evenings.
David
-- Edited by exexx on Wednesday 2nd of March 2011 11:17:51 PM
David: I'm delighted to hear you have enthusiastically read 3 guidebooks. Yay! You are well informed. I confess to having a shelf in my bookcase devoted to guidebooks on Ireland...and I've only been to Ireland once so far! Here is my first bit of advice. You must throw your Rick Steves Ireland guidebook in the trash...but you should keep only the Dingle Peninsula section of the Rick Steves guidebook. Rick's info on Dingle and the Dingle Peninsula is great. However, the rest of Rick's Ireland guidebook is truly his worst guidebook and we found it to be inaccurate and unreliable and misleading. (I'm a Rick Steves fan...love his Italy guidebook for example...but was very disappointed in his Ireland guidebook for 2005, which I read cover to cover, and I have browsed through his more recent Ireland guidebooks which don't look much better. Notice that Rick Steves doesn't even mention Ireland at all in his Best of Europe 2009 guidebook!!! I am reading Rick Steves Best of Europe 2009 and he skips Ireland entirely in that book! Only Great Britain appears with London and Bath...no Scotland, no Ireland.
Michelle Erdvig and her delightful guidebook for Ireland are excellent...and you have already read it I see. Always trust Michelle over Rick Steves for Ireland...
I have also been to New Zealand twice. I adore the south island of New Zealand. Ireland is different than New Zealand. In the south Island of New Zealand, the scenery is so astonishing that you could indeed do a fast-paced drive-by tour of the south island of New Zealand and still see a lot of incredible sights. However Ireland is different. For us, a lot of the charms of Ireland are found when lingering in the pubs in little villages...hearing world-class musicians playing for the love of music in little pubs...standing in the ruins where people died in the potato famine and imagining how they felt living there, with that lovely view, and nothing to eat...lingering on a wild coast where there is not a sign of civilization in sight...finding quiet little spots where you could swear that fairies live... If you drive by too fast you will miss all of that. You'll miss the old Irishman who follows you to your car and sticks his head in just to chat out of curiosity as to where you come from and what brings you to Ireland...
On our first visit to Ireland, we had 3 nights in Dingle to explore the Dingle peninsula and it wasn't long enough...we didn't have time to go out to the Blasket Islands, which even my teens wanted to do. After seeing the Blasket Islands visitors center on the Dingle peninsula, we wished we had more time so we could have taken a boat out to the Blasket Islands. That's just an example of how Ireland calls you to linger...
I loved the music at Matt Malloy's pub in Westport so much that my husband and I returned there a second night and heard different and amazing musicians each night...we also checked out other places in town but Matt Malloys' was our favorite. My daughters and I found a chocolate shop in Westport where a local woman chatted with us. She ended up deciding to give us some blessed holy religious metals for protection on our journey . Where else but Ireland does that happen?? She wasn't preaching to us at all, she was just enjoying a cup of hot chocolate and we got to chatting about Ireland. She said she didn't see too many Americans in WEstport.
Anyway I just thought I'd give you a little glimpse of unexpected moments you might miss if you go too fast.
You will have an amazing trip! You have prepared well. There are many experienced people on this forum...plus Michele, the Goldilocks of Ireland!
Sounds like you like the same things we do, scenery emphasized, so I will tell you what our trip this summer will include. On previous trips we have toured 16 of the 32 counties in the republic, however the last two trips we have based in what we consider the most beautiful scenery in Ireland.
We will spend one week in Kerry (Killarney) and take day trips from that central location.
Drive to Dingle (Slea Head Drive). Drive over Connor Pass, beautiful on a clear day.
Tour Killarney National Park. Drive up to Ladies View, Stop at Muckross House (Gardens and Mansion)
Trip through the Gap of Dunloe (my favorite scenery)
Trip to Beara Peninsula, drive over Healy Pass. Narrow winding roads, beautiful and scenic.
Visit Ross Castle in Killarney and take the tour!!! One of the best restored castles in Ireland.
Drive up to Galway and stay for 5 Days. Boat trip to Aran Islands and tour Connemara area. Again the beautiful scenery.
All the places I have mentioned, we have visited before and long to go back for the beautiful scenery.
Others will have their favorite places, but those are ours.
Have a great trip, it wont be your last to Ireland. You will get hooked.
First of all, I envy you get to stay so long in Ireland!
Sounds like you have done your research. I think it is always good to use multiple guidebooks. I have used Rick Steve's book in Ireland and its great and detailed for certain things, not so much for others. When we went to Derry in 2006, the guidebook contained a great walking tour and explanation for the murals. But on the other hand, he leaves out pretty much the 'center' of Ireland, which is the downside. Michele's book is great for accomodations. As you probably know, no one guidebook has it all for everyone.
I like your pace of at least two night stays. I'm not really following your schedule for after the boat. It sounds like you might be backtracking. Also, not quite sure what you mean by only seeing castles, etc. that are the best of their kind. Perhaps if you give us some more details, we can help. In any event, wherever you go, you will see beautiful scenery.
Driving in Ireland will be different than New Zealand but it sounds like as a veteran traveler, you can handle it.
Because the boat schedule is fixed, we will have to leave where ever we are the morning of June 3 and drive to Enniskillen, shop for provisions, and be at the boat by 15:00. If that means we have not gotten to things we want to do back to the southwest of Enniskillen, then there will be some doubling back to pick up where we left off. However, we can take different routes coming and going and take time to sight see on the way.
Given our limited time, just like every trip we take, there is just not enough time to do everything. Therefore we try to pick the best low hanging fruit. While on the boat, we will be moored at a dock at night (probably a different one every night) so we will get a chance to do the towns, villages, and attractions around Upper and Lower Lough Erne. The boat is a slow the pace way down, stop when we want week.
-- Edited by exexx on Thursday 3rd of March 2011 03:19:53 PM
-- Edited by exexx on Thursday 3rd of March 2011 07:20:26 PM
The boat trip sounds like a lot of fun! I will have to look into that one of these days. Of ourse, I am also wanting to do a Horse Caravan tour simply because the idea of driving my own gypsy wagon around the Irish countryside sounds appealing.
If you could structure in an overnight on Inis Mor of a weekend night, during your Galway time, you could find some mighty craic at Joe Watty's.
Slan Beo,
Bit
-- Edited by CowboyCraic on Thursday 3rd of March 2011 03:46:59 PM
Six weeks to go and we have a schedule and reservations:
Day 1, Arrive Dublin, overnight Kilkenny, Park Villa Day 2,3,4 Kenmare, Abbey Court Day 5,6 Dingle, Milestone B&B Day 7,8 Doolin, Cullinan's (eating splurge) Day 9,10 Salthill (Galway), Sunrise Lodge Day 11-17 On Cruiser on Lough Erne and Erne/Shannon Waterway Day 18,19 Westport, Cillcoman Lodge Day 20 Ardara, Gort na Mona Day 21,22 Derry, Saddler's House Day 23,24 Ballycastle, Ardaghmore B&B Day 25,26,27 Dublin, Willow House Day 28 Depart Dublin
Now to start work finishing the list of must-do's and like-to-do's for each location and along the travel between locations.
Six weeks to go and we have a schedule and reservations:
Day 1, Arrive Dublin, overnight Kilkenny, Park Villa Day 2,3,4 Kenmare, Abbey Court Day 5,6 Dingle, Milestone B&B Day 7,8 Doolin, Cullinan's (eating splurge) Day 9,10 Salthill (Galway), Sunrise Lodge Day 11-17 On Cruiser on Lough Erne and Erne/Shannon Waterway Day 18,19 Westport, Cillcoman Lodge Day 20 Ardara, Gort na Mona Day 21,22 Derry, Saddler's House Day 23,24 Ballycastle, Ardaghmore B&B Day 25,26,27 Dublin, Willow House Day 28 Depart Dublin
Now to start work finishing the list of must-do's and like-to-do's for each location and along the travel between locations.
Wow, sounds like a good plan! I may take some tips from this!
It all looks good. The only thing I would do differently is take one day from Dublin on the end and add it to your time in Donegal up in Ardara. There is so much to see and experience in Donegal. You will get but a quick taste of her offerings with just an overnight.
You have a well-paced holiday. 54 days and counting until I am standing on Irish soil once again.
It does sound like a lovely trip - I envy you the extra time! My trip is only 18 days :) I'd second what Bit recommends, adding to Ardara from Dublin.
When I think 'best' castles, I like the ruined ones rather than the restored ones. To me, ruined castles tell more of the story of what happened to it, and are more picturesque, romantic, whatever you wish to call it. Others prefer the restored ones, with Victorian furniture or Tudor wall hangings - so 'best' is a bit of a subjective thing.
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