I've done CIE tours and have been pleased with them. They lug your luggage for you and you're driven around by them in a bus. I'm doing another CIE tour in March and am getting to Dublin two nights before the tour begins and then staying after it concludes. They offer many options, including Belfast and Derry, which I did last time. Just another option of a tour group.
-- Edited by Maggie117 on Saturday 2nd of February 2013 03:34:45 PM
Myself and my husband, along with another couple are planning our first trip to Ireland in Sept. 2013. I am the researcher for the group. I have done a good bit of looking around on the internet, and I have been reading a travel guide about Ireland. I have found a 9-day guided tour that seems to have most of the sites and experiences we are looking for, including a fast trip thru Northern Ireland, but no real Belfast experience. There is also an 8-day option without any extra day in Dublin (which is a must for us!) but we could extend it and then take an overnight excursion to Northern Ireland via railtour. This looks like a great option...but would extend the trip.
Then I found a 6-day railtour that looks pretty good too. And we could still stay over in Dublin an extra day if we wanted to.
So my question is, would you recommend one type of tour over the other? Do you think its better to take the traditional guided tour and then add on the railtour to Belfast and Northern Ireland? Seems like we could see more, faster, with the train. But we like to have some leisure time too, and transferring luggage all the time is a pain.
Welcome to my forum. Seems like you are trying to compare tours. Railtours versus ___ ? Is that correct? Since I always drive around Ireland myself I don't do Railtours or others so cannot personally recommend one over another. Have you looked for online reviews of the companies you are interested in?
Thanks! The CIE tour was the one I am considering. But we have taken the train in Europe, and the one in Alaska. Both were great experiences. So I will check reviews as suggested!
CIE generally gets good reviews. However, I know of a few who have not been pleased with a dud of a driver/guide. I guess it all depends on who you get assigned to.
Our first CIE tour had a fabulous group of 25 ppl so we really lucked out. We got to know everyone personally and it was just great. We're hoping this upcoming tour is small too... but nonetheless we're sure to enjoy it. And yes, our driver was a hoot and we all really enjoyed him too!!!
Just remember that in Ireland a queen is called a king. A king is called a super king. A double is actually a double. Sometimes if you ask for a queen you get a double. Best to ask for the measurements. Then there are no mistakes.
I have a minor problem with CIE on TA. There is a constant stream of One post wonders on the forum saying how wonderful the Driver/Guide was on a tour anything up to a couple of years ago. There is no substance or detail such as Hotels used, places visited, food and free time. I know this is minor to some, having worked the tour route hotels and seeing them check in at 6pm, eat at 6.30, 6.30-7.30 and check out at 8am a clean bed is the priority, the name of the place, taste of the food, becomes irrelevant.
I am not likely to ever take a tour, self drive is by far the best option. But if I were to take a tour it would be a small group type with at least 1/2 as much seeing as seating and not so exhausting that I would need the typical pre 9pm bedtime.
I would put forward the option that using Public Transport, Bus/Train between key points and taking local day trips by local tour or even hiring a cab for half a day for 4 people would be more conducive to my needs and perhaps those of others.
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Depending on the hotels, but most hotels I've been too offer all size beds. If you narrowed down your decision to one or two tours email/call CIE and ask them directly about requesting a queen.
Hi, I just sent CIE the question for you...I figured I would request a queen and see what they say. I also told them a friend is considering a tour with spouse. I asked if they will get stuck with two twin beds or if they can request a queen...
I, like most on the forum, prefer to do the driving myself. As the proprietor of a Celtic shop, I have had the opportunity to experience a few mini-tours with different tour companies.
I was generally pleased with the CIE tours. That being said, there are other companies that I prefer over CIE because they don't do the Disney version of Ireland. I prefer to stay away from all of teh big tour bus stopping points and get in touch with the more true flavour of Ireland. CIE is a good choice if you don't mind large groups. Some of my other tour companies have smaller groups and because of that the smaller size of the buses allows them to go places the bigger tour bus cannot.
Of these smaller group tours, I am really partial to Vagabond. They offer two different types of tours. Vagabond tours are for the people who want a more active...think kayaking...mountain hiking...based group tour. Driftwood is for those who want scenery, culture, music, history. Either choice takes you off the beaten track and into Ireland's heart. Their 11-day Driftwood tour covers a lot of ground, including teh Ring of Kerry, Beara peninsula and Dingle peninsula, but still seems relaxed and unhurried. THe maximum people on the tours is 16.
Inroads Ireland and Lynott Tours also offer smaller group tours. A very unique tour is offered by Wild West Irish Tours. Their 8-day tour takes you to Maugherow peninsula, the Sliabh Liag cliffs, Strandhill, Carrowmore Tombs, Croagh Padraig, the small island of Innismurray, into Yeats Country and so much more. Wild West Irish also has two special tours designed for The GAthering 2013.
-- Edited by CowboyCraic on Monday 4th of February 2013 11:12:42 AM
When making you booking reservations you can request bed type. I booked mine so long ago that I couldn't remember doing that! So yes you can request a king ( a USA queen).
As the researcher for a group of four, you're probably juggling a lot of requests. My advice is to not fall into the #1 trap of choosing a tour because of the number of sites it checks off your list. More things mean, more time on the bus and less time at the places you really want to visit. It's so hard to balance when planning for other people though.
Many of the companies Cowboy Craic mentioned try to focus on experience over sites... so they offer a very different service from the standard tour.
I took one short rail tour. I enjoyed it. On the short tour we didn't have a tour guide during the rail portion of the tour. Our guide met us at the station and we headed to the bus from there. It was great mixing it up between the two modes of transportation. If you go that route, find out how much you'll have to carry luggage, as on your rail days, you might have to haul it more than once... all the more reason to pack light.
There's a feeling of freedom that comes from the train trip... it doesn't make sense that something tied to rails would feel more free, but that's how it was for me... maybe it was just the bigger, nicer bathroom on the train vs the bus.
Yep. Thats why it appeals to me as well. When we took the train from Germany to Paris, it was fantastic. We saw a lot of countryside that you just wouldn't see otherwise. And it was RELAXING! And the same proved true for the train ride in Alaska. So I am thinking of either an overnight trip via Railtour to Belfast at the end of our other sites, or a day trip. Both leave out of Dublin. I like the overnight one because it has the hop-on hop-off bus tour thru Belfast included. I have always found in my travels that if you can take something like that when you first arrive, you get a great overview and are able to discern better what you want to focus on. And if time is short, you at least leave with a sense of the place.
One concern I have regarding Belfast is that I keep reading about violence and unrest there...even last week. But I cannot imagine going to Ireland and NOT seeing the northern part, including Belfast. My husband and I are always about the history of the people and what is going on politically wherever we go. But I figure as long as we are on a tour, we should be OK. ???????
There is ONE estate in East Belfast where the two sides of a very old coin will never settle. There is a dispute over a democratic decision by the council not to fly the UK flag every day and 20 or 30 of the population of Belfast see this as an excuse to throw rocks at each other. If the worlds press who only showed up because of Hillary Clintons visit would just crawl back under their regular stones then businesses would be back to normal in no time.
No Tourist has been involved nor would any Tourist be wandering round a East Belfast low rent area in the first place. The Black Cab tour is mainly West Belfast and the Falls Rd which whilst i wouldn't recomend walking yourseves is a whole lot safer than the last time I was along there.
-- Edited by tony2phones on Tuesday 5th of February 2013 05:18:14 AM
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I was in Belfast in Sept/Oct. Not a problem. As Tony says you would have to go way out of your way to find trouble. I'm sure if you wanted it you could find trouble in any major city in the world. There are certain areas of the city I live in (Atlanta) that I will not frequent on a dark night.
Oh I agree! I know all about Atlanta...And I grew up in Birmingham, AL which is not the same anymore. You simply DO NOT go downtown at night in Bham unless you have a specific place to go and you are with a group. But I only have impressions from what I read, so I thought I should ask. Thanks for setting me straight on that one.
So I have another (new) question...WHY don't ya'll use washrags to bathe with??? I mean, how in the world do you bathe without one??? We first ran in to this phenomenon when we went to South America. Went to a general store and bought a couple of kitchen rags which worked quite well! But I understand that if I want a rag to bathe with I had better bring my own?????
A washcloth is generally thought of as a "personal item" in Ireland. Although many places that cater to Americans do provide them. I always take a few along. Another option is one of those scrunchy net thingies. They dry out faster than a washcloth. I know of some people who buy a package of washcloths at Wal Mart and take them along, discarding them along the way.
I could get a complex about being dirty reading this.. Soap, water and hands tend to be the order of the day in Ireland and have served me well for the past 50+ years.
Hand cloths, sponges soft nylon wire wool things are available at stores like Tesco and Dunnes.
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