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Bit,

I have a few questions on what you put together.

Do you suggest Belfast city for the 2 night stay.  It seems this is an expensive stop.  I do want to see sites in the city for a day and I also want to see the National Trust house and gardens on the Arps Peninsula.  What about staying outside at Newtownards or Downpatrick, then one day go into Belfast early and stay until evening, then return out into the country.

Is Donegal Town the base to go to Enniskillen to see the National Trust properties (3) that are located in that area?  That is a lot of back and forth to go to for 2 days to see those properties or were you thinking of Belleek, Carrowmore, etc. I want to see all of those places.

Why Dingle and Tralee?  Lots of 2 night stays, I was trying to create 3 night stays when I could.  Still, I can do 2 night stays.

So many people on Michele's board like Galway.  They say this is their favorite city in the country.  Going in for a day is not giving the city its due?

Then you say Kinsale, Kenmare and Cobh all 2 nights each.  I think you wanted Kenmare, Kinsale and Cobh in that order.  My other question is why jumb around with 4 nights-2 Kinsale & 2 Cobh when these two towns are just a ferry ride from each other. I am thinking that 2 days are enough to see both Kinsale and Cobh?

Again, thanks so much for your thought.  I am accumulating everything.

Richard

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Bit Thanks, we did make a reservation and are so happy you recommended it!! Would this be a good location for Richard as he goes South?
Richard, you may want to check it out.

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Richard,

There are some excellent B&Bs in Belfast that are easy on the Pocketbook. I have always had an enjoyable stay at Parkview Lodge. It is just about a mile off of City Centre in Belfast. I think their rates are about 23 sterling per person, inclusive of breakfast. There is quite a lot to do in Belfast itself. To be sure, a black taxi tour is in order.  Then there is the International Rose Garden and the St. Patrick Interprative Centre. Those two together will take up a day.

You could certainly stay in Enniskillen over Donegal Town. Donegal Town is a bit bigger and closer to the Slieve League Cliffs. However, if your interest is in sites around Enniskillen then I would suggest staying at DrumCoo House or Tirconaill Lodge. Of the two, Tir Conaill, on the Sligo road, would be the best suited for the places you wish to see. 

You can certainly use the Courtyard Irish Cottages as a 3 or 4 day stop and do Dingle as a day trip. As for the routing, I flipped two. It should be Kenmare, Kinsale and then Cobh. Kinsale and Cobh could both be done as day trips from a central self catering spot such as Castle Townshend. You could also add a day to Kenmare and Cobh and not stay in Kinsale. The advantage to breaking them up is that from Kinsale, you can do the Mizen Head drive or the Beara Peninsula one day and spend the day exploring Kinsale on the other. Then either on to Cobh or perhaps Wexford Town. Kenmare is a great base from which to take the Gap of Dunloe Tour and explore Killarney National Park and Killarney itself without suffering the larger crowds. Cobh itself is well worth a day of exploring with the second spent exploring the area in and around Cork City or perhaps venturing over into Co. Wexford and visit the Hook lighthouse.

Galway as a destination has always been encouraged because of its cultural mix. That being said, I find Galway a lovely city but with far too much hustle & bustle. It is definitely a gathering spot for the young, college age set. I average about 4-5 hours at city centre there before I have had more than my fill and have headed for my car and wider spaces. I suggested that you do it as a day trip because you truly seem disappointed to be missing Strokestown.

As to the two day stays in most areas, it was the only way that I could give you most of what you seemed to want and not wear out either you or your wife. Three days are preferrable but ,unless you are adding days to your trip or can whittle some of your must-sees, may not be probable.

The trick with having a central base and day-tripping out is to treat it like the hub of a wheel and make a loop each of the days. That way there is no backtracking per se and you see a lot of the surrounding country.

I am curious as to why the focus on National Trust Houses? That is not the normal focus for someone covering as much territory as you want to cover.

Again, nothing is set in stone. I hope that what I have done is given you a good foundation for building a fabulous but relaxing vacation.

Karen,

Glad to hear that you were able to get into Croughmore. I knew it would be a good fit for you. I haven't gotten a good enough feel for Richard yet and so am not sure that it is the best place for him.

Slan Beo,

Bit

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We will let you know how we like Croughmore. The correspondence, thus far, has gone very smooth. We are also looking forward to Ardnagashel--Bantry, and Burren Holiday Home-Corofin. I am really excited about our going to Dingle!! A lot to see in just a month.
Thanks again!
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Bit,

Thanks so much for the additional comments.

I could add a couple of days to the trip.  What was holding me back was both cost and primarily the car.  Some rental agencies seems to limit the car rental to 28 days - 4 weeks or 30 days.  Am I correct on this.

About the national trust homes, I thought it would be nice to see a a few of the stately homes and gardens since I will be seeing so many stone fortresses and abbey ruins and villages over the 4 weeks -  alittle variety is all. 

Should I being trying to fit in lunch or tea at Ashford Castle or Dromoland Castle?  I was thinking that the landscaping and common areas of the castle would be interesting.  I realize that these are now tourist facilities but at one time the homes of the aristocracy and the architecture and common area space is probably still an accurate depiction of what the families enjoyed as "home".

Is one night and 1 1/2 days of sightseeing in Belfast enough, then heading up to the Giants for the night?  Or should I be looking around Belfast for two full days?

Thanks again,

Richard

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Richard,

You can check with Kemwel and AutoEurope. I don't believe they have that restriction. You will not need your rental car in Dublin so picking it up upon leaving Dublin will give you two extra days there and turning it in before entering Dublin again on your last day will save you another day. If you cannot get things set-up with Kemwel or AutoEurope, you could also try contacting Dan Dooley by phone, 1800 331 9301 , in New Jersey and explain what you are trying accomplish. They are gems at helping folks out with rental issues.

There is much to see and do in Belfast. The highlights for me have always been the Black Taxi Tour, The Rose Garden and the St. Patrick's Interpretive Centre. Those three things would take up a day but breaking them up would give you time to find your own treasures.

I have never had tea at either of the castles so I cannot say as to whether they would be a good option. I usally come into Ashford via the Abbey in Cong, as it is a nice walk to the Fisherman's hut. Adding a few extra days, say 3-4, would give you the opportunity to spend a few days in Galway city, as well.


I now have better understanding of the desire for visiting the Trust houses. I always hunt out B&Bs which are housed in Old manors as it is interesting to see how preservation was accomplished while modernizing.


Slan Beo,

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Richard,

I often book a car rental for 31 days through Kemwel. The car company is always Europcar. If you try to book directly with Europcar for 31 days you can't do it. You would have to do two back-to-back rentals. But with Kemwel - no problem.

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Michele,

I tried the link from you site and Kemwel would not let me enter any dates for May-June.

Richard

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Thanks again Bit.
I received a reply from Auto Europe after sending them an email.  They said the rate info. will not be available for a few weeks.

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Richard,

I think that you are outside their window for booking for next summer. I would wait until late September or Early October and then try to make the reservations. Kemwel is an excellent company. They work dilligently to make sure that their clients are happy with their services both before and during their trip.

Slan Beo,

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Hi everyone. Wow! I must say this thread has sucked me in like an afternoon soap opera! How fun, everyone trying to help Richard out, I am truly enjoying reading this, and also learning a lot and making mental notes for my own trip to Ireland next May.

Now, what compelled me to reply to the post was I think Strokestown is an absolute must!!! I cannot stress enough how I feel it should not be missed. I visited Ireland for the first time in May of 2005 and our first stop out of Dublin was Strokestown, I cannot tell you how that completely set my perspective straight in the way I viewed the country on the rest of my 2 week trip. I feel it is a treasure that cannot be missed.

There...whew, ok I feel better now.

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Richard/Michele,

I did check out Kemwel car rental and got an excellent price for a Standard, Opel Zafira $1,050.54 for the month of March 2008.
Michele -- does this cover accident ins.?
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Kellijo
Welcome to the Forum. I have been using it for about 1.5 years, and have made 3 trips to Ireland and I am still learning!! Everyone has been so helpful. In March 2008 we are going to try staying a two new self catering places that were recommended on this site. Good luck, and if I ever get to the Eastern shore, I will try the place you mentioned.
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Kellijo,

I may be a bit prejudice in regards to Strokestown, but I do believe that it is one of the best chronological museums in regards to the famine. It is a no nonsense, non disneyized interpretation of the entire period.
 
For those who don't know, when the house and grounds were purchased in recent memory, they found a treasure trove of journals, record books, photos and sketches depicting and documenting the time of the Famine. They brought the gardens back from ruin, renovated the house and created the museum to house and showcase these glimpses into the past.

It is the cousin of a friend of mine which owns and operates Strokestown. I didn't know that when first I visited the House and its gardens. What was meant to be an hour or two ended up being an entire day. Followed  by a rush of poetry that I could hardly keep up with whilst putting them down on paper.  The curator did think me a bit odd, as it was pouring rain and I still chose to walk out in the garden. The deluge stopped and a rainbow appeared shortly after I began my walk.

Karen,

County Roscommon is actually closer to Galway than Dublin. It is very accessible from the West coast. It sits in the high end of the midlands. I am sure that you have seen my posts in regards to Roscommon Town on this forum.

In regards to the car rental, call the 800# and ask them what the price covers. Then ask them to email you a breakdown of what is covered and what is not, in simple terms. That way you know what you need to look at adding in extra coverages.

Slan Beo,

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Thanks for info, Bit, My memory is terrible, but Roscommon does sound familiar. I should have written, I think, when commenting on KelliJo's comment about the town of Strokestown--- I wasn't sure where it was until she mentioned Dublin. I am going to have to look up Roscommon again. My best bet is to carry my MAP around cuz I keep forgetting where places are. Thanks again! Youngka


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KelliJo,

I am glad to hear that the forum finally sucked you in and you have made your very first post. Welcome! I agree with you completely that Strokestown is an excellent stop. It really depicts the dreadful conditions that happened during the famine and gives a wonderful insight into the way the rich and poor lived at the time. I was especially interested in knowing about the tunnels that the servants had to use so as to be "invisible" to the owners of the house. Before the family entered the garden they would use the large brass door knocker on a doorway into the garden to alert the gardners to vacate the area immediately. They did not want to have their view sullied by the sight of people working. It is no wonder that the tennants finally shot the landlord!

It is just that it did not seem to fit into Richard's itinerary as originally posted. Plus there are other good museums that might fit the bill along his route. But you never know, as his itinerary progresses perhaps Strokestown will be added back in.

Thanks for your input. I hope if you have any questions about your trip you will feel free to start another posting.

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youngka,

If it is the Kemwel site that you clicked through to from my car rental page it would include accident insurance if you choose the inclusive rate. However, I highly recommend you read my entire Car Rental page before booking a car. It will explain about CDW, Super CDW, deductibles, etc. Some credit cards still cover CDW in Ireland and if yours does you will have to make a decision as to whether to use it or purchase the car company's insurance plan.

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Michele,

Thanks for the advice! I am having a travel agent check here and she has quoted base price and then the price with the ins. I did read, and copy, some of the info., on your site & saw the basic charge and the inclusive, but I need to sit and really read it and the terms and conditions of the travel agency here. I think, before we went on our first trip to Ireland, we did check with our credit cards and our car ins. about being covered and they all said no, so we added it to the coverage at the airport.

I sure do appreciate your help, Youngka

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