Sorry Michelle - I followed a string and posted this to your forum on an older topic. It may have not been the correct way to ask the question. If you have received this twice I apologise.
I have just returned from a trip that included a few days in Ireland. I rented a car from Thrifty Car Rental Shannon for 1 day and it was dropped off in Dublin same day October 5th to be exact.
I had received a quote from them for the 1 day that included a 25 euro charge for dropping off the car in Dublin. When the car was picked up at ShannonAirport I present a letter from Master Card covering me for insurance purposes. They refused the letter from MasterCard ( Platinum). We had a Gold Visa which they accepted. At that point I was informed that they would be charging my card 2000 euro that would be fully refunded if the car was returned no damage. I was surprised by the policy since it was not stated in my quote. I went over the conditions with the CS Agent at the counter ( have his name) and was again informed that a full refund would be given back when the car was returned that day. We questioned the deposit charge - it was for any excess damages to the car and we would be responsible for collecting from the insurance company. At that point we were stuck needing to arrive in Dublin to reach our next destination.
When the receipt was given to me the 2000 Euro was converted to Canadian Dollars for a total of $3278.88 ( conversion rate of 1.63944). This did not cover the rental rate plus full tank of gas & drop off which was an additional 115.07 Euro converted at the same rate which was $188.65 CDN ( total $3467.53 CDN) I was told that if car was returned full tank of gas that would be refunded.
At the end of the day in Dublin the car was returned and a refund of 2,000 euro (plus 61 euro for gas/additional driver was credited) I did notice that they had not converted it to Canadian the same way they had charged it earlier in the day. Which I questioned and told that it would even out. If I back out the "gas refund etc I was credited $2995.67 on my credit card According to my CCard Company this was because of the way Thrifty processed the credit. Meaning the 2,000 euro was not converted to Canadian dollars immediately and processed the same way that they charged it to my Card the same day. I did not receive a full refund of the 2000 Euro and in fact suffered a loss of $283.21 CDN. ( note this is on top of the rental)
I contacted Thrifty in Dublin today - Dublin's initial response was that they are not responsible for "conversion rate differences". I have pointed out that this was an error created by their accounting/processing practices and if they had processed the credit the same way I would have received the full credit for the 2,000 Euro. I had told them that the CCard company pointed out that it was the way they processed the credit.
It would appear that I may have a problem based on my converstation with them today (Oct 23) . I am waiting for a response from Thrifty . I am at a loss at to what my next step is. I am prepared to take this to the next level - this practice of charging a $2,000 euro damage deposit and not returning it in full does seem right and I can not believe that a company of their size would be using such methods with international customers . If they have accounting issues when crediting it back the very least they could have done was block it off the credit card and then unblocked it. I know from my conversation today that I am not the first person to bring this to their attention
We rented a car from National/Euro/Alamo group - in the UK on the same trip for 9 days used the same Mastercard coverage that was refused by Thrifty. They had a policy of 250 GBP hold on the card and it was returned with out issue.
Do you have any suggestions as to what I should do next - Thank You Wendy ( Canada)
Welcome to my forum. No problem with your two postings.
Renting a car in Ireland is fast becoming a real problem. Most have layers of rules that are not favorable to their "clients". Those who are uninformed before their trip are usually taken advantage of. It is especially dismaying when these rules come as a shock and impact the pocketbook.
The first problem I see with what you have outlined is that you were a victim of Dynamic Currency Conversion (DCC). Instead of charging the 2,000 euro in euros they converted it directly into Canadian dollars at their rate. You can read more about DCC on my Tips & Tricks page under the heading of Credit Cards. You should have been given a choice of being charged in euros or Canadian dollars. It is always best to choose the charge in local currency (euros in Ireland).
Please be advised that for security reasons, 2000 Euro will be CHARGED to your card in case of damage. If there is any damage, this amount can be claimed back through your credit card company. No damage on return will result in a full refund to your card. We will not be held resposible for any exchange rate charges as a result.
Since it was a one day rental I question why the exchange rates changed so drastically. I would contact Visa and explain the problem with DCC and the exchange rate and have them straighten out the matter. Hopefully they can.
Thank you for your response - I have Contacted Visa and they reviewed it. The issue is that Thrifty Car Rental ( Ireland) accounting practice created the difference. They processed in Canadian dollars and if they had returned the deposit in Canadian funds it ( same day) it would have cleared through.
They agree that we are not at fault and clearly stated that Thrifty car rental processed this deposit incorrectly causing the difference of $398.00 CDN or 226.86 Euro (Master Card conversion rates October 6) ( deposit) If they had blocked the funds or returned in the same way that they entered it into their system it would have avoided the issue.
The car was to cost a total of $17.5 Euro ( including tax) plus the additional 25 Euro as per my booking confirmation - excluding the above issue we were charged 115 Euro converted to 188.00 CDN) with a credit of 61.99 EUR This car using this method costs us over 90.00 for one day so this is not working out as advertised.
I have contacted Thifty car rental Ireland and given them a follow up to my original conversation as well - I have not had a response to date. I hope that Thrifty being the size they are will acknowledge their error and straighten this out.
Todate in total we are being asked to repay approx 584.00 for 1 day rental of the car. We rented the car in the UK for 9 Days for a total cost of $532.21. Thanks Wendy ( Canada)
You need to dispute the charge with Visa. If you were not offered the opportunity to have the charge processed in euros that was not right. Ask Visa what their rules are about that. I know that MasterCard in the US states that you must be given the choice of currencies.
If Thrifty made a mistake Visa should be able to adjust the charge to be correct. It sounds like Thrifty is not helping at all.
You may want to contact the Car Rental Council of Ireland.
I can imagine you are banging your head against the wall trying to make sense of all this. I wish I knew why so many car rental companies in Ireland have such a string bad practices.
Your situation sounds like something that would interest Chris Elliot. He's the National Geographic Traveler magazines reader advocate, and this is just the type of situation he likes to alert people to... and tries to change.
His information and contact info is at www.elliott.org/about/. Good luck, and I hope you get your money back.
Thank you for your response. I have had an unsatisfactory response from Thrifty ( Dublin). It included the text from the contract ( back of it) referencing the "2000" Euro charge for Damage
The response continued on to state if I was not satisfied then I could "write" in to the next level of authority. Their was no acknowledgement to the costs that were incurred for one day rental due to administration practices. They did reproduce the text from their contract which does state a deposit of "2,000" Euro to be returned when the car was returned ( no damage). The car was returned no damage same day and we did not receive our money back in full.
I also had insurance protection on my CCard. My understanding of this charge is in case there was damage to the vehicle over and above what the CCard insurance covered they would use the "2,000" deposit and we were to claim back from our CCard Company. There was no damage ( rented car Shannon in the AM returned in the PM same day Dublin).
We dealt in good faith with Thrifty car rental ( Ireland). Again "thank you" I am awaiting additional information from our CCard Company who are looking into this as well . I will take your suggestion and contact National Geographic Travel ( I subscribe to this publication as well in Canada).
This situation with Thrifty has created a terrible stress and we had such a wonderful time in Ireland ( 2nd visit), Wendy ( Canada)
I hope it works out to your benefit. We can all commiserate with you about the pitfalls of renting a car in Ireland. Been there, done that! It is the most stressful part of the trip. I always try to catch their tricks as they happen and correct things on the spot. But many people are not savvy about their tricks. It is like dealing with gypsy horse sellers!
Very tricky indeed. I've had troubles with companies but must say the only company that hasn't let me down yet is car enterprise. The trick is I always hired and returned the car in Dublin and not in another city.