I can understand your hesitation about how long it takes to see a place. How about a range of time, minimum to maximum depending on how much of a history buff a person might be. Minimum and maximum time, Newgrange visitor center, Newgrange and Knowth, min-max: 3-4hrs.
I do not want to tell you how to do your book, but for me, some help on time is better than nothing.
Michele, I really want to compliment you on your artistic ability. You are a wonderful illustrator, I would say as wonderful as you are an expert on Ireland tourism and the country of Ireland.
I do need some additional help on the Dublin part of my trip. I have allocated four full days for sightseeing and I am wondering if I should extend my trip by one day to include a 5th day? Here is what I would like to see:
One day: the DART along the coast, stopping a in few of the towns. Day two: (Saturday only), the Phoenix park, visiting the president's home and the Guinness-Farmleigh estate, hopefully this is only a morning , so my time is free in the afternoon for something else, perhaps Cow's Lane Market and some sights below.
Here are the other things I would like to see: Dublin castle with its Chester Beatty collection Hugh Lane Gallery of Modern Art Kilmainham Gaol Museum National Gallery National Museum Trinity College Temple Bar area General Post Office Dublin City Hall Dublina Medieval Heritage Center
Am I trying to squeeze too much into the three days that I am not taking the day for the DART? I probably only need to walk around the Trintity college for an hour looking at the architecture, same for the Temple Bar area and the Post Office interior/exterior. I probably would like to see one of the museums each day and I imagine that can take 2-3 hours for each art museum. Do I need to add another day for sightseeing or can I load up the days?
Richard Leeds: I confess I haven't followed this entire discussion thread...I just hopped on a few minutes ago. But I notice you like history, pub music, and Dublin.
Regarding pub music: Yes we love it too! I just posted a link at the bottom of my Trip Report which includes the first 2 videos I've posted on youtube...of great pub sessions in IReland in September 2011! I'm very grateful to tony2phones who helped us to decide to definitely stay in Clifden during the Clifden Arts Week...that is where we heard the best music of the trip! I also posted a music video of an amazing singer we heard in a pub in Kilkenny.
Regarding Dublin: We splurged for the very pricey The Merrion Hotel in Dublin for only 2 nights...and it resulted in an amazing visit to Dublin, I think partly because with so few nights, location matters a lot! We walked to as many sites near the Merrion Hotel as we could. While we did poke around in The National Museum, and we did see the Book of Kells at Trinity college...I think my favorite experience of Dublin was just wandering around in some of the historical areas, armed with some info about the history of buildings. which famous writers lived where, etc. And also having a leisurely enough plan so that we left time to stop and chat with a couple friendly Irish folks about their city...just wandering around in our chosen areas soaking up Dublin...loved it and want to return! Also do you like Thai food? There is a great Thai restaurant in Dublin...and on 1 or 2 nights a week they have a fantastic Irish group playing the Blues...yes I know sounds very eclectic...but it was wonderful! (I didnt' even know I liked Blues...it was a very cool experience.)
Enjoy!
-- Edited by Melissa5 on Monday 7th of November 2011 05:35:53 PM
You said you will be in Ireland in April, we arrive April 16th. Where are you going and for how long?
I thought Newgrange might be just another ruin. Your comment and Michele's comment about needing hours for the visit tells me this will be one of the highlights of Ireland.
I appreciate your input about my book. Getting new ideas is the way things change and grow. So I may just add approximate times for the next edition or the one after that. Depends on how much time I have.
Wow! Thanks for your comments about my illustrations. My sister did a couple of them before she lost interest. Then she coached me on how to do them. I think they are competent but I'm no artist. Taking drafting in high school helped! Some are hand-drawn but now I generally use a computer program to turn photos into sketches. It would be nice to have color photos of each place but that would cost too much.
One thing to keep in mind is that most of the museums are closed on Monday. Perhaps that should be your DART coastal day. I think you are okay with the 4 days in Dublin. You might also want to include the hopper bus (48 hour pass) for an overview of the city, then hop on and off at your stops.
Michele
P.S. Melissa is recently back. You can read about her trip in the Trip Reports section of the forum.
Richard: Yes everyone told me that who shows up to play music in a pub on a particular night is luck and it can't be planned. But I planned it anyway! You can do your research on pub music, and then cross your fingers. Also, I brought info with me...I knew which pubs would be likely to have really good Trad music on our visit... But also you can ask in town once you arrive...we stopped by in the daytime and asked at the pubs if there will be music and who is playing...and sometimes your b&b owners might know about the music, sometimes not. Don't bother to ask in the tourist office, they will think you are a dumb tourist. Another good place to ask is the local music store in Ireland...where the locals shop. I like to have a short list of the most likely good pubs for trad...then we stop by and listen in the doorway...if we don't like it, we move on to another place on our list. Of course we would stop anywhere that we heard great music spontaneously.
J Conneelly's in Clifden had the best music overall. This was during the Clifden ARts Week. We had a chance to speak with some of the musicians, who said that during the summer months, some of them had played regularly at this pub, but they had never had all 5 of these champion musicians all playing at the same time before the Clifden Arts Week. Fergal Scahill is especially amazing and multi-talented and worth looking for if you are fortunate enough to be in a town where he is playing. I understand that there are some other smaller villages in Connemara which have Trad music... But during an arts or music festival, such as the one in Clifden, this does draw in more musicians. We also met some interesting artists in Clifden during Clifden ARts WEek!
In Dublin The Cobblestone is a pub known as a "musician's" pub...it has the real deal... "real" trad music. However we got unlucky and during our visit to the pub, the back room wasn't open, and the front room had a small group of musicians who were doing more drinking and talking than playing. (This was the first time we had ever run across this situation.) It was still interesting to visit this pub, though. It would have been better if the back room had been open for music.
One problem is that some pubs are putting in very loud microphones & speakers for their "trad" musicians...and mostly getting loud drunken tourists who aren't listening...I'm afraid my husband and I are just too "old" in our 50's to enjoy this! When possible we prefer the pubs without the microphones...where people come to hear the music.
In Dublin the Thai restaurant with great Thai food and great Blues played by Irish musicians is called "Diep Royal Thai Cuisine" or Diep Le Shaker Royal Thai Cuisine. It's walking distance from The Merrion Hotel which is near Merrion Square...get directions as I recall it's a short ways down a narrow alley-like lane. 55 Pembroke Lane, Dublin 2. www.diep.net Remember they only have the blues music once or twice a week. Best to make a reservation for dinner...we just had the concierge at our hotel make the reservation for us, and we got a great table that way! I recall they had an early bird special of some kind...it included tasty choices at good prices. Here in San Diego we love Thai food and it was good and authentic at Diep in Dublin. (As spicy as you are going to find in Ireland.) Try the appetizers for sure!!! The waiter had good recommendations. Yes get a reservation to sit downstairs...otherwise you will be upstairs where it looked kinda lonely to me...you want to be downstairs closer to the blues music.
We have not finalized our dates as of yet. We are planning to go the end of April/early May for 2 weeks. Our 25th anniv is early May so we would like to be there for that. As for Newgrange, last trip we visited Newgrange only and not the other passage tombs there. Still, probably spent the better part of 3 hours there.
Right now we are looking at flying into Dublin and spending at least 2-3 days there at the beginning or end of our time. We didn't get to see the Hill of Tara, much of the Boyne Valley or Trim Castle so would like to do that and travel through the Midlands to Athlone/Roscommon then on to Galway and on up the coast to Mayo and Donegal (planning to spend at least 3 days in Donegal). We want to see the Inishowen peninsula too. Last trip we really enjoyed the North coast and the Antrim Coastal Road (gorgeous) so we are going to do that again and on the way back to Dublin. Want to stop and see more of the Mourne Mountains too.
Good luck in planning and I'll let you know when our plans are more solid.
We will base in Galway May 1,2,3 to see the area, Sligo May 7, Enniskillen area May 8&9, Londonderry area May 10,11 and Newtownards, May 12-13-14, so maybe we will run into each other and have lunch or dinner or go to a pub. Let me know if we are going to cross paths in Ireland.
Our itinerary is firming up. We will arrive on May 1 and stay that night in Trim. 5/2 and 3 will be in Belfast. 5/4 and 5 in Derry, 5/6,7&8 in Donegal (Ardara), 5/9 and 10 in Westport, 5/11 & 12 is still in flux between Galway or Roscommon then we finish up 5/13 and 14 in Dublin. If you are going to be somewhere and want to try to meet up, just let us know. Have fun!