Appreciate the feedback. I did steal some from tours I looked up on the internet. Since I haven't been to Ireland before I thought it would have been a good starting point. I appreciate any suggestions especially if you've done it with kids before. I don't want us at eachothers throats!
-- Edited by Liz on Monday 28th of January 2013 06:57:22 PM
Hi Michele. Thanks so much for suggestions. I think our must haves for this first trip are the , Cliffs, Blarney and Dublin. Then I really like the idea of Killarney because it seems there is a lot to see and do in that area that won't keep us confined to the typical tour. I tried to update the timings also to give me a better idea using your equation.
So looking to revise a bit: DAY 1/2: Arrive Dublin/Tour Dublin (March 22-23). Staying at Shelbourne in Dublin.
DAY 3 Tour Glendalough & Waterford (March 24) - Maybe I should eliminate this and go right to Blarney from Dublin - Stay in Waterford - WATERFORD Granville (current reservation here) but I am going to look for a B&B instead.
DAY 4 Blarney (March 25) - To Blarney from Waterford 3.5 hours - If I eliminated Glendalough/Waterford then this would be a ~5 hour drive and I would stay 2 nights in Blarney - Stay in Blarney B&B Blarney Vale
Day 5/6/7 Killarney (March 26/27/28) - From Blarney to Killarney (2.5 hours) - Lakes of Killarney from Ladies View - hike around Killarney National Park - Drive Ring of Kerry - Dingle Peninsula - Stay in Killarney B&B Friars Glen. I see you noted that this is a nice place, but further from town. Do you have a suggestion on another BB?
DAY 8 Doolin/Cliffs (March 29) - Getting to Loop Head and/or Cliffs looks like it is going to take us a little while - 5 hours?. Early morning day. How much time would you typically take at these sites? I took your suggestion on staying 3 nights in Killarney and only 1 night in Doolin. Not married to Doolin - is there another BB that you would recommend in the Cliffs area? Do we do Loop Head and Cliffs of Moher? - To Loop Head (5 hours) - Loop Head to Doolin (2.5 hours) - Burren - Cliffs of Moher - STAY IN DOOLIN?
DAY 9 Back to Dublin (March 30) - this can all be eliminated if there is more to see from our trip to cliffs and then just make the drive back to Dublin is the plan for this evening because we fly back home on 31st. - Drive from Doolin to Bunratty - Limerick to Cashel - Stay in Dublin (The Shelbourne)
-- Edited by Liz on Monday 28th of January 2013 10:22:58 PM
Below is the itenerary that I have been planning for my family (husband and 3 kids - 16, 13, 11) at end of March 2013. I don't want it to be so crazy that we don't enjoy because we are exhausted, but want to make sure we see enough to get a real taste for Ireland. I also want it to be more than just a bunch of tours - would prefer something more active with the kids to keep them interested.
I'm not really married to any of this right now, but would like to get something on paper so that we feel good about the things that are absolutes.
Please share your suggestions.
Thanks in advance!
Liz
DAY 1: Arrive Dublin
- Leisure walk city
- Stay in Dublin (The Shelbourne)
DAY 2: Tour Dublin
- Trinity College
- Book of Kells
- Guinness tour
- Kilmainham Jail
- Temple Bar
- Stay in Dublin (The Shelbourne)
DAY 3 Glendalough - Waterford
- Glendalough (A full day in the Glendalough valley visiting the historic ruins and enjoying the beautiful scenery) 1 hour from Dublin
o St. Kevins 6th century center of Irish Christianity
o Monastic city
- Kilkenny Castle stop 1.5 hours (thinking to skip - would be too much as I have read that the Monastic city can be very exhausting)
- Drive to Waterford 40 minutes
o Waterford: House of Waterford Crystal
o Lismore Castle and Gardens?
- Stay in Waterford - WATERFORD Granville
DAY 4 Cork - Blarney
- To Cork/Blarney from Waterford 2 hours
o Blarney Castle & Gardens - renowned for its magical Kissing Stone.
o Shop for traditional Irish handicrafts
o Mizen Vision
o http://www.blarneyvale.com/trips-n-tips.html
- Stay in Cork B&B Blarney Vale
Day 5 More Cork - Blarney
- More sightsee Cork
- Stay in Cork B&B Blarney Vale
DAY 6 Killarney - Ring of Kerry
- Drive to Killarney from Cork (1.5 hours) OR
- Drive to Portmagee (Skelligs rock) (Portmagee, Ireland) (2.5 hours from Cork)
- Lakes of Killarney from Ladies View (in Killarney between Killarney and Kenmar).
- To Killorglin (from Killarney is 20 min) to Dingle (1 hour) Drive Ring of Kerry for a 100-mile panoramic drive around the islands southwestern tip to Dingle Bay (1 hour) and Killorglin (20 min from Killarney) do we need this? maybe just go to B&B and do hike around there? Jaunting road trip through park: Killarney National Park
- Cross the Shannon estuary by FERRY at Tarbert (1.5 hours) to Killimer (~1 hour on ferry)
- Killimer to Cliffs of Moher (1 hour)
- To Burren: a scenic route across the limestone plateau of The Burren (40 min)
- To Doolin (40 min)
- STAY IN DOOLIN 3/28 DALYS HOUSE
DAY 8 West Coast
- Do more cliffs? - Aran Islands?
- Tour Galway (1.5 hour), a popular seaside destination and a buzzing cosmopolitan center with cobblestone streets, colorful shops, and a busy café and bar culture. Rathbaun Farm?
Welcome to my forum. Glad you found your way here. Your itinerary is jam-packed with things to see and do. So don't be disappointed if you don't get around to everything. Do the most important things first. If you don't get to the things lower on your list you will still have had a well-rounded trip to Ireland.
I realize that those who have not been to Ireland before look at a map and think it is so very small and they can see everything in a few days. That is not the reality in Ireland. Traveling around takes time. Plus Ireland is densely packed with interesting things to see and do. Each sightseeing stop on your completed itinerary will take time too.
Since you are traveling with 3 kids I will suggest that getting everyone up and away, breakfast, packing suitcases, packing the car and moving on every day is going to get old fast. You will be better off if you have as many multiple-night stays in strategic areas as possible. I would pull a day each from Doolin and Blarney and add them to Killarney. That will give you a good base for the SW - and there is a tremendous amount to see and do in the area.
I really don't wish to offend but this looks like a copy from a rush around CIE type tour where the weary can sleep on the bus, Ireland doesn't run to a schedule and your timings are well off. Throw away the tour guide and decide what are your really must see/do items. Having done that you can compile a more relaxed and enjoyable or at least feasible itinerary.
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It is good as a first draft but you will want to do some tweaking. Michele oft advises travelers to take the distance, in miles not kilometres, and divide by 35. That will give you the actual driving time IF you are driving without stops. Then you have to add in time for stops, petrol fillings, bathroom breaks, etc.
Having done a trip with a 10 year-old and a 13 year-old two summers ago, I can honestly tell you that this outline will do you all no favors and have you, most likely, at each other in short order. They will want their down time away from Parents and siblings. You will want some adult time. It is a vacation and you should maybe think along the "less is more" line. You won't notice what you've missed because you will be besotted by what you do see.
I will puzzle this on my drive home and get back with you on it this evening.
Another thought. Although I love Friars Glen as a wonderful place to stay, it is a few miles drive from Killarney. Staying closer in with the family would allow walking into town and through trails in Killarney National Park.
When I am planning an itinerary out for a family or groups of friends, I always ask them to sit down as a group, prior to our appointment, and individually write down their must see list. That gives me a starting point. Your children are old enough that they might enjoy having some input. When I traveled with my boys as children, I always let each of them pick something they wanted to do on the trip. In Scotland, the eldest chose to visit Roslyn CHapel...the younger chose to do a Falcon walk.
As to the Clare region, perhaps spend time on the Loophead...then drive to Doolin and the next morning, take an Inis Oirr/Cliffs Cruise
Some things to keep in mind:
Ring of Kerry is a full day's trip
Dingle Peninsula is a full day's trip
Killarney National Park is a Full day's adventure, if you want to hike and include Muckross House
Given the ages of the children, I would probably suggest that you extend your time in Dublin as there is so much there to hold their interest and your's, as well
With 9 nights, I would most likely route a trip thusly:
Day 1 arrive Dublin and Head to Blarney via Glendalough/Wicklow...Overnight Blarney
Day 2 - Blarney Castle and the grounds... Overnight Blarney
Day 3 - head to Killarney (2 Nights) - Explore Killarney National Park
Day 4 - Ring of Kerry or Dingle
Day 5 - Head to Doolin via Loophead (2 Nights)
Day 6 - Inis Oirr/Cliffs Cruise
Day 7 - Head to Dublin (3 nights) - turn in your rental and take a taxi to your lodgings....
Day 8 - Grab the Hop-on/Off Bus tour and get on and off at the stops you find interesting
Day 9 - either continue to explore Dublin or grab the Mary Gibbons Newgrange tour
It would probably help to know what your interests are as a family. Bit is right that everyone should have input. As long as each person gets to do something "they" want to do there will be less friction on the trip. If someone starts complaining that they are bored you can remind them it is "XXX's" turn for sightseeing. Be patient and your turn will come soon.
Thanks - yes, I have already talked to the kids to make sure they looked into the things they wanted to do while there. I also ordered your book last night, so hoping that will help the process along.
What time does your flight depart from Dublin? If it is real early you might want to consider staying near the airport at a hotel with a shuttle. Then you can drop the car the day before and not have to add extra time on departure day for that chore. You need to be at Dublin Airport a minimum of 3 hours in advance of your flight departure time.
I would opt for Lahinch rather than Doolin as the base on the Clare Coast, I like Doolin and go there on a regular basis but the youngsters would at least have the option of the pool and seaworld centre if the weather isn't bright and you would have a wider choice of bars and eateries. Inis Oirr and Cliffs cruise is great, we take visitors via O'Brien line, Be aware though that late march this is weather dependant. I would also aim there via the Shannon Tunnel and maybe Bunratty folk Village/Castle rather than Loop Head which would add some time, distance and expense ferry E18 v E1.8 tunnel. Loop Head and the West Clare railway could be an option if the Inis Oirr boats are not running.
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Thanks Bit - this was helpful. I am excited to get Michele's book so that I can get them to commit to something! They are so excited to go and I am sure everything we do they will get so much out of it. This is the first time they have been out of the US (except for trips to Mexico) and they are really looking forward to it. Although I think my daughter (13) thinks every boy in Ireland will be like the one from One Direction which is where her thoughts are located at the moment ;)
I think our first night in Dublin is going to be a bust - we don't get in until 2 PM and I suspect we won't have much time to do anything other than get situated in and find a place to eat. Any suggestions for a Friday night. I had Temple Bar (because that's what us tourists do) on my list but after reading the post from Michele saying the locals call it "temple barf" I am re-thinking :) Hah!
Also, can you give me another suggestion on a good BB in Killarney? I like the idea of being walking distance to town.
Michele: We leave Dublin at 9:30 AM. We are at the Shelbourne which looks to be about 10 Miles from the airport. Does it take a long time to get across the city at that time on a Sunday?
Would love something simple and not too expensive. We are most likely going to be excited to be there (and have our first pint), but we'll also a bit jet lagged too. I think a variety on the menu would be nice, although my husband and I would be more adventurous, the kids may not be.