The Sandymount Hotel is not central Dublin and an easy drive from the Airport but involves a couple of tolls. http://goo.gl/maps/9pmui The second no problem E1.70 over the River. The First is the sting, Before 10am E10 for the Port tunnel southbound. http://www.dublinporttunnel.ie/tolls_and_permitted_vehicles/ I doubt the hotel will have an airport shuttle.
Not sure just how much you are hoping to fit into 7 days but Dublin - Cork in 2 days smacks of a mad dash see nothing but the car type trip. What do you have planned? I could give 2 days worth of points on day2 drive but I think you need to prioritise your needs and interests. http://goo.gl/maps/nY6Ay Not even thinking about other options like Kilkenny
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I was referred over here by Irish Fireside. My husband and I will be traveling to Ireland Sept 30th, 2013 to October 7th. We're really looking forward to it, as we'll get to spend our anniversary there. I've been reading through a few topics posted on here and trying to not panic about the rental car. I'm trying to take in each post as extra information and to be aware.
I think I may have made a newbie mistake (yes this will be our first trip to Ireland) and booked our trip through ExploringIreland.net starting in Dublin and spending each day in a different part of Ireland. So far exploringireland.net has been great to work with, for those curious - very knowledgeable, polite, and quick with their responses to any of my questions. Almost everything I have been reading says to NOT drive in Dublin. Driving on the left isn't the greatest concern for us, as we spent three years in Japan for military stationing. They drive on the left there too. However our first hotel that was booked is the Sandymount Hotel in Dublin near the Aviva Stadium. Our second night is in Cork. Sandymount offers free parking, but I haven't asked yet if they offer airport shuttle. Should we drive to our hotel, park and walk or take a bus for our sights in Dublin? Leave the rental car in overnight/long or short term parking for our first night and catch a shuttle or taxi to and from our hotel? I know our first day is going to be a bit of a blur and once we're outside of Dublin we'll be able to settle into a more relaxed mode for our vacation.
Welcome to the forum. Don't get upset about the car rentals. Our goal here is to inform people in advance so they know exactly what they are doing and what to look out for. If you have any individual questions about renting a car, just let us know.
If you feel okay driving on arrival consider driving to your hotel and parking in their free lot. Leave the car there and take public transport in the city till you depart next morning.
Do you have to stick to the itinerary your travel agent did? Or can you change things around to suit your style?
Thank you to both of you for the quick responses. Our entire itinerary might be a whirlwind. We spend our first night in Dublin, second in Blarney, third in Killarney, fourth in Doolin, fifth in Galway, sixth in Trim, and last night is back at Dublin, right near the airport.The only sights that are on our "must see" list is Guinness and the Jameson Distillery, more for souvenirs than anything else. I have made a list of things in the areas where we'll be sleeping, but honestly after we get out of Dublin we plan to take it slow. We'll take our time getting from place to place. If we see something along the way then hopefully we'll be able to stop. Even though it's our first time in Ireland my husband and I don't feel an absolute need to see all of the touristy spots. We also plan to have early mornings!
I don't know how much we can change with our itinerary. It is completely paid for (not just a deposit), with our accommodations and rental car booked. Our pace, sites and tours are completely up to us.
Thank you very much Tony for the advice on our hotel. Sounds like we'll probably just drive straight to Sandymount and take public transport from there. Glad to hear it's a fairly easy drive! :)
I ate at the Falls Hotel two weeks ago and had a wonderful meal there -- pan fried sea bass. It was a nice place. If you are in Country Clare, I would agree with Tony that it is a great option for a meal, and I enjoy Ennystymon and several of its pubs, including Daly's, Eugene's, and Cooley's.
Geno
-- Edited by Geno on Friday 12th of April 2013 10:58:37 AM
Cullinan's in Doolin has excellent, gourmet food. I eat there often. Check their website because they are not open every day of the week: http://cullinansdoolin.com/ Tell Carol "Michele" recommended your anniversary dinner there. You will want reservations if they are open on anniversary night.
I would suggest that you see Blarney Castle first thing in the Morning, There is no compulsion to snog the rock it is a long way up narrow uneven winding stairs and the view is good from the top, the gardens are worth a look.
My recommendation would be to see some of the Beara Peninsula on the way to Killarney, smaller than the Invaragh (ring of kerry) so better use of the day or at least more relaxed. If not that then see the Lakes and Muckross, you can drive the Gap later in the day after the Jarveys have packed up. O'Connors or Tattler Jacks would be my recommended bars but tour bus tourists can always be found singing along in the Danny Mann bar of the Eviston.
Killarney to Doolin is a good 4 hours taking the Shannon Tunnel with a call into Listowel and Adare to add, I might also be tempted to call into Ennistymon for a look at the Falls and take the coast road up from Lahinch. After your evening meal drive up to the Cliffs find one of the few parking spots without yellow (no parking) lines and walk down to the edge (or as close as you can get these days)
Doolin to Galway is a short hop and you could have a relaxed day taking the Combi trip to Inis Oirr and the cliffs cruise before driving up round Blackhead (for the Burren Moonscape) to Ballyvaughan then Kinvara and into Galway. There is a good selection of Bars in the city many doing good pub grub.
Galway to Trim is a run along the slab (M6/4) you could call into Clonmacnoise below Athlone on the way.
Don't expect too much from the Guinness Storehouse it is not a brewery tour in the old style but an interactive museum, Jamesons Smithfield is a little better hands or eyes on but remember you will pay top price for souvenirs in these places perhaps have a look into Tribes, Shop St Galway which is where we take our visitors for theirs.
Not sure what you have been given by the agents but if you need any unbiased info feel free to ask.
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Wow, thank you very much Tony for the suggestions!! I'm definitely writing them down and look forward to trying to fit them in. I know the trip will be a blur but everything we don't see (which I know will be a lot!) will give us plenty of reasons to come back! I greatly appreciate it.
Do you have a suggestion of a good restaurant or even really good pub in Doolin? That will be the night of our anniversary and I'd like to see if we could work something nice or at least different into our budget.
I wish you said said anywhere else...Doolin is a nice enough place but has a grand total of 4 bars and reputably 10 eateries although I would have to count a few twice to get anywhere near that?
Dunguaire Castle Banquet might be a fun option http://www.shannonheritage.com/Attractions/DunguarieCastle/ about 45 minutes up the Road in Kinvara. The Falls Hotel has a couple of good restaurants http://www.fallshotel.ie/dining.html and only 20 minutes or so away in Ennistymon (have a look in on the way up). Another perhaps more traditional oprion would be the Wild Honey in Lisdoonvarna http://www.wildhoneyinn.com/ Eating in Ireland asside pub grub and cafés is not cheap which brings us to Gus O'Connors in Doolin which does food and is one of the bars we do use Mc Dermots would also be an option but with only four spread around the place you could try McGannes and Fitzpatricks as well.
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How would you suggest getting from Killarney to Doolin? The directions we were given said to catch the Shannon ferry, but Tony mentioned taking Shannon Tunnel. I realize it's going to be 4-5 hours either way we go.
The only reason to take the route by Ferry would be to see the south west of Clare, well worth seeing but you need time to explore properly. So for the two routes I would always include Listowel but for the Tunnel route call into Adare http://goo.gl/maps/7Q08N add a bit so 4 hours drive plus stops, could also stop at Bunratty. for the ferry route take in Loop Head http://www.loophead.ie/ and include the coastal borheen to Kilkee http://goo.gl/maps/8GV8h probably 5 hours plus stops
lol I'm married to military, so it's funny that you picked up on that Michele. :) My husband really likes structure. So I made this itinerary more for him, but I know it will most likely all go out the window once we get there!
Oh I can definitely say we will be going MUCH slower for our next trip!!
-- Edited by smshowalter on Tuesday 30th of April 2013 03:30:09 PM
Ok so I've roughly worked out our itinerary. Everything is already paid for (plane, car rental, and B&Bs), so it was a matter of what sites we were going to see and working out driving time. I know it's going to be a blur with a lot of time in the car. However my husband really enjoys driving. However our next trip (yes I haven't even gone on this one yet and I'm already planning my second!) we will plan things differently. I've used Michelle's advice on converting the kilometers into miles and dividing by 35 to get more of an accurate travel time. I apologize for the long post. I wanted to break the itinerary down by hours so that we can more accurately judge travel time.
Ireland Itinerary
Monday, September 30th, 2013:
ETA to Dublin Airport: 9:30am, proceed to baggage claim and customs.
~ 11am: Pick up luggage and rental car from Hertz in Arrivals Hall
~ Noon: Leave the airport to get used to driving and to start our drive into Dublin
~ 1pm: Check into Sandymount Hotel (if we can check in a bit early) or at least see if we can park the car there and have lunch somewhere near by.
~ 1:30pm Explore the city
~ 6-6:30pm Have dinner, probably at a pub. Figure out public transport or walk back to our hotel.
~ 8-9pm Crash for the night!
Tuesday, October 1st, 2013:
~ 7am Have breakfast at Sandymount Hotel if available that early. Check out around 8:30am
~ 9am Hit the road. Stop in Cashel which is on the way.
-Cashel stop (this is along our route to Cork, and would also make a good stopping point for a break) ~11-11:30am -Cashel Heritage Center in center of town. Free admission. - Rock of Cashel, just outside the town of Cashel. Open from 9am to 4:30pm. Admission is E6. Average length of visit is 1.5 hours. This would be a good place to have lunch.
~ 2pm Be back on the road.
~ 3:30/4pm Reach Cork City/Blarney. Check into Maranatha Country House Have dinner in Cork City
~ Evening. Walk around the town of Blarney.
~ 9pm Crash in bed.
Wednesday, October 2, 2013:
~ 7am Be up and have breakfast.
~ 8:30am Check out. Head to Blarney Castle. Should be fairly close to our B&B
~ 9am Blarney Castle opens. Try to be here around opening. Admission is E12. Cash only! Plan about 1 hour - 1.5 hour for seeing the castle and grounds.
~ 11:30am Hit a grocery store or deli and grab some sandwiches. Head to Killarney National Park (about 2 hours from Maranatha Country house). Take the rest of the afternoon walking around the park to see Ross Castle, Muckross Abbery, House, and Gardens. Have a picnic in the park if the weather is good.
~ 4:30pm Check into the Woodlands B&B in Killarney.
~ Evening. Have dinner in Killarney and do some shopping.
~ 9-10pm Crash in bed.
Thursday, October 3rd, 2013:
* This will be a long day of driving so we need to be up early.
~ 6-6:30 Wake up. Have breakfast as early as possible.
~ 8am Be on the road. - Drive to Tralee, then to Tarbert, take the ferry to Killimer Harbor, drive along the coast to Doolin. (roughly about 6 hours)
~ 2:30pm See Cliffs of Moher
~ 4:30pm Check into Nellie Dees. If there's still daylight try to see a small bit of the Burren.
~ 6/7pm Dinner
~ 9/10pm Bed
Friday, October 4th, 2013:
*Another long day of driving.
~7am Breakfast
~ 8:30 Be on the road. -Drive from Nellie Dees in Doolin, to see where our B&B is in Galway but check in later (Four Winds Lodge), continue on to Maam Cross, then on to see Kylemore Abbey, return to Four Winds Lodge. (about 8 hours for driving and sight seeing).
~ 4:30 Check in to Four Winds Lodge
~ 6/7pm Dinner
~ 9/10pm Bed
Saturday, October 5th, 2013:
~ 8am Be on the road.
~ Drive to Trim (4.5 hours)
~ 2pm See Trim Castle, Hill of Tara, and Donaghmore round tower and church
~ 4:30/5pm Check into Crannmor Guest House
~ 6pm Dinner and shopping
~ 10pm Bed
Sunday, October 6th, 2013:
Check out of Crannmor Guest House, drive to Dublin aiport. Drop off car and check into Carlton Airport Hotel as early as possible. See more of Dublin, via public transportation.
Monday, October 7th, 2013:
Be at the airport round 7:30am for customs. Depart at about 11:15am.
It will work and you know in advance it will be a "green blur". You will get a quick overview of Ireland and can plan a different pace next time.
You need to check with each B&B to see when they serve breakfast. On some days you are departing at 8 am. Some places just start serving breakfast then. It is interesting that you have mapped out a "military time" itinerary as long as you know that in Ireland nothing goes quite as planned. And that is the beauty of Ireland.
Will you let us know how you liked the pace when you get back?
I like that way of thinking Tony! :) However the clocks get in the way when sites close at specific times and then the time to check in or out of your accommodations.
You will have a good time, but I doubt hardly anything will stay in tandem with that proposed timeline. Not in Ireland! I laughed at this one: ~ 6-6:30pm Have dinner, probably at a pub. Figure out public transport or walk back to our hotel. You might not even get waited on in a pub in 30 minutes, no less eat there, have a drink, figure out how you are getting back to your hotel.
I will look forward to your trip report following your moment by moment plan...
Wouldn't be the first time I have seen people sit at a table and get up 5 minutes later moaning about the lack of service..I also had the daft question on another forum about what time pubs close! need to ask a townie that sort of question! But your bed times are way too early for Ireland things seldom get started until 9 or 9.30pm and only the tour bus tourists get off to bed exhausted by that time.
The only thing you need to worry about is closing times for some museum or closed feature sights. We tend to take visitors to see the Cliffs of Moher after they are closed, find one of the few spots where Clare council have not put double yellow no parking lines and there is a public right of way to the Cliff path.
Check out time is seldom a problem and check in time...Provided you let the B&B know you might be late it's seldom a problem. We have been known to turn up about 9 pm after unavoidable delays.
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Oh no Geno, I dind't expect to have full dinner at a pup in a half hour. It was more as in "around 6 OR 6:30 let's have dinner".
Again, my husband is in the military. He's also the one that tends to go to bed super early He agreed to this trip as long as I provided him with an itinerary. The itinerary might be conveniently forgotten prior to departure though. I'm hoping that once we're over there and the beer is flowing in the pubs that he won't care what time he goes to sleep.
I changed the itinerary a bit to see Loop Head Lighthouse... Is the visitor center at the Cliffs of Moher worth stopping into, since we'll basically be driving along next to them?
A good choice on Loop Head. I was there just weeks ago and it is a wonderful area to see. Remote and peaceful, the way Cliffs used to be years ago. If you only have time for one, I would actually suggest a trip to Loop Head.
The road is 150 yards in and down from the cliff side. Do you want to see the Cliffs or the visitors centre? The cliffs as said don't close and if you are down in Doolin anyway just pop up before sunset. better still take the Cliffs Cruise and see then from below.
Loop Head takes a little longer then you might expect the roads are really narrow down there but the place is well worth seeing as it is before Clare Council ship in a million tons of earth and make the lanes into highways in the name of the tourist god. Given time people wanting to see Ireland as god made it, will be just too late.
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Yes, you will have fun! I understand that some people have a harder time adapting to an unfamiliar schedule. My first trip in Ireland I planned my usual early rising time. On the next trip, I adapted my schedule to suit what usually happens in Ireland. That means having your breakfast at the B&B more like 8-9:00, and then starting your day. Maybe my experience is just weird, but it seems like music in the pubs doesn't usually start until sometime after 9:00 pm, and it could be closer to 10:00 pm. I often take some kind of rest period sometime between 5:30-8:00 pm, because that's kind of a "dead" time for sightseeing or pubbing. B&Bs will usually set out a breakfast for you if you leave early, but I find it more fun to have breakfast and talk to people you meet.
How does Ireland feel about tourists climbing over a wall on to private property to see some ruins? I've noticed many incredible castle and abbey ruins are located on private property. When looking at places, there does not seem to be any mention of No Trespassing signs. Here in the states you would most likely be chased off by a large dog or in some places, depending on the part of the country, you would be chased off with a shotgun.
For example, I would like to try to see the Athassel Priory Ruins in Co. Tipperary. They are however on private property. Would I be okay in climbing over the wall by the road to walk into the ruins to take some photos?
-- Edited by smshowalter on Thursday 2nd of May 2013 02:05:26 PM
As long as it doesn't say "No Trespassing" you are okay. If I recall correctly there are "steps" built into the wall around Athassel so you can go over it. If there is a gate, always close it behind you. Mind your step. There will probably be lots of sheep and cow poo.
There is no Made Path,, ("Any man may walk any made path") but as Michele has said There are steps built into a section of wall. As to Ireland in general just be respectful leave nothing but footprints take nothing but the air in you lungs. Watch out for Private, Bull or Dog signs on gates and if gates are tied don't untie.. many structures will have given points of access although the perimeter around might be a fair way to find that point.
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To add to what Michele & Tony have already said, I have found that simply knocking at the farmhouse door and asking can sometimes net you a friendly chat and a go ahead. A few folk will ask for a euro or two but that is a rare few.
Cows in the same field will usually pay you no heed...sheep will be happy to lead ya but mind yourself with the rams and bulls or if there are lambkins or calves afoot
I spend a good deal of time mucking about ruins and such, mind your step, as rocks and roots can trip ya and twist an ankle ...and there is that cow and sheep fodder that Michele mentioned.
Respect goes a long way... take only pictures...carry memories out with ya...