In looking at your book and others I find myself overwhelmed by a wealth of choices. I need itinerary help! I'm at the stage where all I see is fields of green erupting with fantastic rock formations and laughing people in pubs on rainy nights. It's a kind of brain lock.
My basic plan is:
1. arrive at Shannon airport Saturday October 14, 2006 at 1:45 p.m. 2. depart from Shannon Monday morning at 6:45 a.m. 3. get B&B reservations ????? 4. rent a small car 5. use the below festivals to ground me and occupy more or less of my time depending on the experience 6. drink in the beauty and glory of Ireland via drives, walks and maybe local transport 7. meet people as I go. 8. visit what's wonderful with no set agenda 9. write what my mind and imagination brings up - essays, poems, stories, ???
I will be travelling on my own so I would prefer single accommodation when possible.
I want to use the geography of the festivals to be a guide, perhaps a circle center, for my driving explorations.
Questions: What can you tell me about the festivals? I've e-mailed the contact information provided and have heard nothing. Do I pay for each event? Is there an overall cost for the entire festival or a day rate? Or are they free or donation only?
I'm trying to figure out a driving, exploring schedule for before the festivals. (Who knows what opportunities will present themselves once I'm involved in the festivals.)
For this I'd like to book accommodations now, but of course I can't yet because I don't know where I will be.
I'm also looking for options when I take a break from the festivals or when I want to go further afield (if I do.)
I'm healthy, up for walking, fine with driving, can accommodate to a wide spectrum of comfort services. I'm looking for as much of a personal experience as possible in the B&Bs. I don't want slick or fancy. I do want warm and lovely. I'd like a mix of out in the country and close to town center. I do want to avoid large urban areas.
I saw (but can't find now) a farm house accommodation where they raise horses and provide horseriding experiences for beginners. (I'm not a beginner, but it's been a long time so I think I'm better off defining myself as a beginner - especially in Ireland where horsemanship is so excellent.)
Can you help me sort out these issues? Thank you, Michelle!
Event Title: Cuisle - Limerick International Poetry Festival Date Start: 16 October, 2006 Date End: 21 October, 2006 Recurrence: Annually
South Tipperary Writer's Festival
Venue:Aillwee Cave County: Clare Time: 12:40:08 Price: NA From: 19-10-2006 To: 22-10-2006
South Tipperary Writer's Festival is a privileged event that takes place annually in the beautiful town of Clonmel, South Tipperary. It is hosted by South Tipperary Arts Centre. The event has a history of hosting celebrated writers and poets of International fame who get together in this event and share their experiences and deliver lectures on various topics. The 2004 event included writers like Niall Williams, Michael Coady, Dermot Healy and Clare Keegan, Darren Shan and Ulick.
General Name: Cuisle - Limerick International Poetry Festival
Poets of national stature, Padraic Breathnach, Barney Sheehan, Nuala ni Dhomhnaill, Micheal o Suilleabhain and many more will perform at various venues in Limerick city. There will be a mixture of readings, childrens events, schools workshop, lunchtime readings etc. For a full listing of events please click on the web sites below. Bookings: Can be made at the Belltable Arts Centre at the web site below or by calling +353 61 319866.
Address Arts Office Limerick City Council City Hall Merchants Quay Limerick City Co Limerick Telephone +353 61 407421 Fax +353 61 415266 E-mail artsoff@limerickcity.ie Web www.limerickcity.ie Web www.belltable.ie
If you are not getting emails from the festivals, I suggest phoning them instead. Remember it is 5 hours later in Ireland than EST. Dial 011+353+ area code (minus the zero)+phone number.
I cannot give you feedback on the festivals because I have not attended them. The people you speak with can most likely answer all your questions.
Since the Cuisle - Limerick International Poetry Festival starts on Oct 16 through Oct 21 you might want to consider your first several days in the Limerick area. You could stay in Limerick city itself or choose a smaller place like Bunratty or Adare, both of which are within a short drive of the city. There are some overlapping days for both festivals since the South Tipperary Writer's Festival starts on Oct 19 through Oct 22.
You need to sit down with a calendar to decide which events you will attend on what dates. That will determine where you will need reservations. Once you decide on that we can figure out some sightseeing.
It is really not that hard, just a matter of getting organized.
I'd also say a phone call is your best bet. The Limerick # you have just needs the 011 (you don't have to worry about minusing the zero for that one). Hopefully, they will also be able to point you in the right direction to get more info on the Tipperary festival as well.
I must confess; I'm a little confused why South Tipp Arts would hold their writers' festival in northern Clare...but maybe the allure of Ailwee is just what they were looking for.
Killaloe is another village to consider outside of Limerick.
Happy to report some progress. I now have plane tickets and a rental car.
So I'm there and moving but no place yet to sleep.
I still arrive at Shannon airport Saturday October 14, 2006 at 1:45 p.m. depart from Shannon Monday morning, October 23 at 6:45 a.m.
I will attend the Poetry Festival in Limerick City from October 16 - 18.
I will attend the Souther Tipperary writers festival in Clonmel from October 19 - 22.
I'm now looking for recommendations and advice about B&B's, sights,tips in and around these venues. Probably I will only attend some of the festival events and move about for some travel adventures. But since both Ireland and Irish festivals are new to me I don't know what to expect. I might be enchanted and fascinated by the festival activities and wind up staying close in. Still, my imagination has me driving, walking and perhaps horseback riding in green rural areas.
Any thoughts? I especially would like a recommendation for a B&B for when I first arrive. I will probably be both excited and tired and would likea good place waiting for me.
This week end I'll get more into Michelle's book and some more Irish reading. So far I'm reading Delaney's Ireland and watching the Masterpiece Theater series, "The Irish RM." This program - sometimes wonderfully funny and sometimes strained and reaching - shows fabulous intimate day by day features of Irish weather in all seasons. I'm definitely bringing layers to wear and one pair of shoes/boots that can handle mud and water.
Thank you for reading my posts. I am so glad to have found Michelle and this forum.
I'm glad to hear things are progressing with your trip. Did you call the festival organizers? I notice that you are now saying that the Southern Tipperary writers festival is in Clonmel rather than Aillwee Cave. So perhaps you did get up to date info.
It looks like you will be staying in the Limerick area from arrival to Oct 18. You might like to check out Cahergal Farm B&B: http://www.cahergal.com/ They have stables right out back of the B&B. Otherwise my suggestions (in my book) for Bunratty, Adare or Killaloe would be good. Since you are staying in the same place for several days, inquire about a discount. From those areas you can do Clare, North Tipperary, Limerick, Lough Derg, etc. Some things I would not miss are Bunratty Castle & Folk Park, Loop Head, Cliffs of Moher, Aillwee Cave, the Burren, Foynes Flying Boat Museum, King John's Castle in Limerick. So you can see that even if you skip part of the festivals you will still have plenty to do.
I don't have any personal recommendations for lodgings in Clonmel, but perhaps the B&B you first stay at will have some. I do have a few in Cashel, which is not terribly far from Clonmel. From that area you will want to do Rock of Cashel, Cahir Castle, Swiss Cottage and perhaps even Kilkenny.
Thank you, Michele for the suggestions! The horse place looks fantastic but a bit pricey. Perhaps I cana visit there and see if I can negotiate something. The others look great.
I have more information abut the festivals and the timing. The Limerick poetry festival website was not accurate. The festival runs Oct 18-21 in Limerick City. Most of it is free. The 8:00 p.m. readings cost money and require advanced booking. It is now being referred to as the Cuisle Poetry Festival. I don't know why a name change happened or if both are accurate.
Clonmel - South Tipperary Writers Festival - is Oct 19-22 and most events cost and require advanced booking. Sales start Oct 2.
So I will attend in Limerick Oct 18-19 and Clonmel 20-22.
That give me four open days at the beginning of my trip with nothing planned except lovliness and fun as it occurs.
I will need a B&B near the airport, suggestions for those four days and B&B booking for places near the festivals. I'm told that B&B's might fill up because of the festivals and that I should book soon.
I so want the green of Ireland, wet or dry (wet AND dry)! This is getting exciting now!
A big part of planning, as I'm sure you all appreciate, is getting the homefront covered while I'm away: Family issues, work issues, animal care, house sitters, website watching, home care, garden care - oh, my gosh. Gone are the days when I could just pack a small bag and go. All is starting to fall into place now, and I'm committed to creating a smooth transition for those I leave behind as I embark on this trip.
For people who may be interested in festivals, I'll keep you posted. I still haven't called. My schedule and the time difference is working against me. The websites don't offer much, but they offer enough to get started. After three or four e-mails over a period of three weeks, I received a gracious and helpful e-mail today from The city arts officer for the Cuisle Poetry Festival in Limerick.
And I found more details about the Clonmel festival - which seems to be comprised mostly of novelists reading from their work. Info gets mounted on the internet when the time of the event is close.
Both festivals refer to "debates". The events are readings and debates. I don't know what debates are, but will let you know when I find out.
For a B&B near the airport try Headley Court or Bunratty Lodge. They are both very nice and only about 10 minutes from Shannon Airport. With your 4 days before the festivals you could go off in many different directions. You could go north to Galway and Connemara or south to Kerry. The choice is yours.
While not a B&B, the Great Southern Hotel, http://www.greatsouthernhotelshannonairport.com/, at the Shannon Airport would be my suggestion for the night prior to your departure. You can turn in the rental car after you check in to the hotel, saving a bit of money. Their breakfast is fantastic. The best part is that you only hav eto walk across the parking lot to get to the terminal.
In Clonmel, I would have to say that I love the Brighton House, http://www.tipp.ie/brightonhouse.htm. Pat & Bernie Morris will make you feel at home. The house was built in the 1860's so there is a lot of history with it. The rooms are spacious.
As a writer myself, I like to surround myself with objects of the past as much as possible. It helps my creativity to listen to their "voices".
These are wonderful suggestions. I think I will stay at the Hotel Airport that last night. This is so practical and thoughtful, plus the hotel looks very nice.
Your suggestion in Clonmel looks good, too. It's on the top of my list of places to explore in the next few days, as soon as I get my timing straight.
Friends are telling me that the Ring of Kerry is essential. And we are wondering when the boats stop going to Arran Island.
Since I have time before the festivals, and I don't have to attend all of the days.
Now I'm thinking I can take four or five days to do Ring of Kerry and perhaps Galway and spent the rest of the time at the festivals.
Do you think four days is enough time for R of K or would five be better? Once I have that clear in my mind I can go ahead and make reservations in Clonmel. Brighton House looks great.
Yes, I like to be surrounded by history and beautiful things too.
The Ring of Kerry is quite doable in one day. Should you decide to do the Ring, I would suggest driving it counter clockwise as the views unfoldable more strikingly that way. If you have a few extra days, perhaps you should consider a two night stay in Killarney as your base for the Ring. That way you could take advantage of one of the days for seeing Killarney National Park & Muckross House. I would recommend either Falshea House, or Killarney Lodge. Falshea has fabulous Rose Gardens, although they will be dormant at the time of your travel. Killarney Lodge is within walking distance of both Town Centre and Killarney National Park. Make sure you take the cart tour of the park and Muckross, as it is the best way to experience the whole setting. Along the Ring, make time for the Kerry Bog Village, the Kenmare Heritage Center, if you like lace-making, and the Skellig Experience.
The Arans are the first place I head when I land in Shannon. I consider Inis Mor a second home. Aran Direct leaves out of Rossaveal, which is Northwest of Galway. In my opinion, they are the best ferry service. This ferry service is owned and operated by Aran Islanders. I am not sure if they will be open at the end of October, but Man of Aran Cottages is where I hang my hat. It is a bit removed from Kilronan though so you might prefer to check with Ard Einne Guesthouse or the Pierhouse. At that time of year it is rather quiet on the islands. You might prefer to make the trip a day trip and then stay somewhere on the mainland. There are some great places to stay in Galway, Copper Beech and Corrib Haven are two of my favorites. If you make it to Galway, make sure you have fish & chips at McDonough's located in city centre. It is the best fish & chips I have ever had and I have eaten a lot of fish. If you could give two days to the Galway area, you could hook up with one of the Connemara Bus Tours that leave from the tourist centre. It is the best way to see the Connemara region, as they usually hit all of the best attractions.
I write Western Poetry, Western Songs, and Children's books. I also design jewelry using semi-precious stones or antique glass and sterling silver or irish peweter. If you find you have any other questions or would like to see some of my photos from Ireland, you can go to my site, www.cowboycraic.com, and email me.
I wish I was going with you. I need an Ireland fix!
Welcome to the forum and thanks very much for your excellent advice for Diana. I'm sure it will be invaluable as she plans her trip.
Diana,
The ferries go from Galway all year. The tourist office there will be able to advise you about them, their schedules, etc. You can also go to my Transport page to click through to the ferry websites.
I also second Cowboy Craic's recommendation of Killarney Lodge. It is a great place to stay within walking distance of town and with wonderful hosts. The ROK can be done as a day trip from Killarney. If you want to stay on the ring an extra day would be required.
I am glad that I could help. I would suggest Galway first, as that will reduce your backtracking. It is also a shorter drive for your first day. Do try to get to McDonaugh's for Fish & Chips. If you want some great Trad music in Galway, try Busker Browne's on Cross St. or Matt Molloy's on Bridge St. Molloy's is owned by one of the Chieftains. In Limerick, the Trad hot spot is Nancy Blake's on Denmark St. or you could catch the dinner show at the Officer's club at Castle Lane Tavern. I found a way to enjoy great food without going broke by checking this site, http://www.valuemenu.ie/control.asp, fo restaurants that might have a lesser price. Of course, I had to feed me & five others so I wanted to make sure that they all were fed well!
Have a grand time & I look forward to reading all about it when you return!
Thank you again. Backtracking is what I want to avoid. And I know I will want to go to bed early the night I arrive. It would be nice to sleep in a place close to the next day activities. You seem to have an excellent appreciation of that kind of need.
Tomorrow I go over my travel guides. Today I worked a writers Festival in Santa Barbara. This was great preparation for the writing festivals in Ireland. People here want me to let them know how they run in Limerick and Tipperary. I've alrady made contacts witht the art council in Limerick, and my hunch is that they will want to know about writers festivals here. So I'm feeling delightfully ambassadorish.
Do you have any recommendations about where to stay my first night coming from Shannon airport? Stay on the outskirts of Galway? In Galway proper? I'd want a place that is convenient for leaving in the morning to the Aran Islands and returning to spend the night again, leaving in the morning or next morning for the Ring of Kerry two day excursion.
Five of you travelling together? What fun, and yes I can appreciate your looking for economical ways to feed your entourage while giving them delicious Irish experiences. How old are the children? I assume you are talking about your family.
I hope to become a kind of Auntie Mame in my family. I am so ready to have travelling adventures with the young ones. We've had a few happy experiences in Hawaii, and I'm hoping for more in Europe - maybe Ireland once the little one isn't quite so little!
You can make Galway easily from Shannon. I would recommend Abbey House in Galway, as it is close to city Centre. You could also look at Adare House, Copper Beach House or Corrib Haven. They will give you a good place from which to base for the Arans, as well as the rest of the Connemaras. If you stay in Salthill, then you have to contend with driving in to Galway and locating parking. Make sure you stop at Standún in Spiddal on your way back in from the Arans, as they have some of the best prices you will find for all kinds of Irish goods.
You will have a long day of driving between Galway and the Ring of Kerry. However, it is quite a pleasant drive. If you take the car ferry between Killmer & Tarbert, it will shorten the trip. I believe that it should still be running while you are there. You can also take the ferry in reverse to get back to the Shannon area on your return trip.
The five that I had with me were my performance and lecture partners. They are all adults although sometimes it feels like I am dealing with my kids. We try to stay within a short driving distance or walking distance of any of our venues or teaching facilities. It makes for a less stressful time when you know that you can easily go back to your lodgings for a rest during the day.
Getting to bed early is a great plan. However, when you find yourself in a pub enjoying a good session, you may find that is a plan that will need flexing. One more reason why having a place to stay close to your daily activities is a blessing. I am all for power naps!
Whenever we are over there, I do feel that I am acting as an ambassador, as well. It can be quite a fulfilling experience. You sound as if you are quite able and willing to take on that mantle, as well. The advice I offer is easy, enjoy every minute of it, don't stress over it too much and keep a daily journal. You will meet a lot of people and collect a lot of business cards, of that I am sure. Make sure you have a business card organizer to put them all in. I would also suggest noting on the back of the card where you met & any requests that they might make.
It sounds like you are all set and ready to set off on a grand advemture. Aunt Mame indeed. Look out world, here comes Diva Diana. Enjoy yourself to the fullest! It will certainly make for lively stories at family gatherings. One last thing, can I stow away in your luggage?
Hi Michele, Craic and the 238 Ireland visitors to this thread,
Isn't this a great place to learn and develop plans?
Here's my major turnabout and regrouping. Craic, your passion and committment to Irish music rang through your post to me about Galway.
It was your passion that reminded me, woke me up actually, to the original purpose of my going to Ireland. From the letters here and on other boards, from watching "The Resident Magistrate" and travelogues on cd, listening to "My dream of you" on tape, reading Delany's Ireland and pouring over guide books, I got completely seduced and carried away by Ireland.
My trip was turning into a driving, see and catch the magic as I go by kind of excursion. When I finally received my Michelin travel map the wake up call was complete.
My original compelling call to go involved a rambling stone wall, fields of green, rain, horses, Irish brogue, a fireplace and me writing. When I found the poetry festival in Limerick scheduled for the time I could get away I took it as a sign and started making plans.
Craic, you reminded me of that. Follow the passion, the bliss. So now my plans are extremely simplified and connected to my heart.
And I still need some guidance.
I still arrive in Ireland October 14 and leave the 6:45 a.m. October 23 via Shannon airport.
South of Limerick, about 26 kilometers, is a town/village called Kilmallock.
That is where I will stay Oct 14-17. I'm thinking aboout booking a place called Flemingtown House - a 250 year old farmhouse with views of green and dairy farm pastures.
Anybody know anything about the town or the B&B?
The festival goes from October 1ctober 21 in Limerick, and I plan to stay around and attend all of it. But I don't want to sleep in the city.
Since the activities begin at 11:00 a.m., and I'm both an early riser and accustomed to Los Angeles driving, I wouldn't mind a half hour drive into town each morning. Do you have any recommendations for B&B's and/or areas that might have B&B's at that distance and which are more toward the rural, pastoral environment rather than urban cement and stone?
I'm taking your advice, Craic and booking the hotel at the airport the October 22.
This all leaves me one night open, Oct 21, and by the time that rolls around I should have enough in the field knowledge to find a place to sleep.
What a change from the above conversations which I treasure. I feel like I've been on a whirlwind visit to Ireland, and now my heart is taking over and leading me where I need to be.
Thank you for your patience and please let me know if you have any suggestions for this much less expansive trip plan.
warm regards to you both and to all the visitors to this thread!
Flemingtown House is on my must visit list. I have not stayed there yet but I have been past it and it calls to me. I love the B&Bs and Guesthouses which are housed in houses passed down through generations. There are voices in the walls that tell you stories and cause your pen to dance.
If you want the stone walls, horses, etc., then you definitely want to stay in the smaller villages and rural setting. That is my Ireland. I love the small town and try to avoid the more urban settings.
If you want something outside of LImerick, look toward Adare. Its one of my favorite small towns. There is a great B&B there, Clonunion House. It is a 200 year old house with its own gardens. Mary Fitzgerald is the owner and she is a jewel. You could extend your stay through the 21st and use the extra day to explore the region. It is only about 30km to shannon from Clonunion, if memory serves me correctly
It is so easy for people to look at Ireland and think that they can see it all in one trip. It can be done but you only get to see Ireland through a windshield. It is so much better to relax and enjoy certain areas. I am so glad that you decided to slow down and smell the peat. If I was instrumental in helping you make that decision, I am touched. There will be other trips back. You will be able to enjoy Ireland more in small bites as you return again and again.
My trip is planned as much as it can be. Your support and information have been invaluable in helping me get clear and make the arrangements I need.
Here's the final. I land in Shannon at 1:45. Get my car and drive to Kilmallock Village where I stay at the Flemingstown House for three days. It's on a dairy farm with lots of green. Check out Kilmallock, a city center in medieval times.
Then I move on to Clonunion House in Adare, a 250 year old farm house where they used to raise horses. The people in both places are warm and friendly. We've had lots of e-mail conversations.
I wanted five nights at Clonunion, but she could only give me four. However, she said her daughter lives next dor and could give me an en suite for the fifth night. Turns out that "next door" means that the old stables have been converted to living space, and that's where I'll be. Sounds great to me.
It's about a 20 minute drive from Adare to Limerick which is just what I wanted. The poetry festival starts at 11:00 a.m. every morning. Since I'm an early riser I'll have time to write, walk, explore in the mornings and have an easy drive home in the evenings.
My last night will be at the Shannon airport hotel. My flight home is at 6:45 a.m. and I prefer to have the least amount of tension possible in terms of making that flight.
Now I've got some Irish movies to watch. Don't know if I'll get to them all: Breakfast on Pluto, Crying Game, Waking Ned Devine and Matchmaker.
Also, I plan to listen to: How the Irish Saved Civilization: The Untold Story of Ireland's Heroic Role From the Fall of Rome to the Rise of Medieval Europe on the plane. Tomorrow I will finally break down and get an i pod!
The arts officers of Limerick hasve been helpful in my getting lots of information about the poetry festival and reserving my space.
Now ithe task is about creative packing. Michele, your list of what to bring is great. I'm bringing electronics, (camera, neo for writing, i pod not owned yet) but all battery operated so I don't have to deal with charging or plugging in.
I'm thinking about host/ess gifts, small items to give as appreciation to people along the way.
Any suggestions? Cowboy Craic mentioned small boxes of See's chocolates.
I'm getting happier every day! Thank you, Michele, for this board! It's fabulous.
It sounds like your trip is just about planned. Bet you can't wait to go. It is really not expected that you give your hosts gifts. However, if you want to the chocolates sound nice. Or you could just send them a nice thank you note when you get home.