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Looking forwrd towards our trip, it seems much of the following was evident and explained while touring Ross Castle in Killarney during my last visit. Don't mean to junk up the BB but thought this offers an interesting perspective to the past.  jb


Here are some facts about the 1500s:
Most people got married in June because they took their yearly bath in May,
and still smelled pretty good by June. However, they were starting to smell, so brides carried a bouquet of flowers to hide the body odor. Hence the custom today of carrying a bouquet when getting married.

Baths consisted of a big tub filled with hot water. The man of the house had
the privilege of the nice clean water, then all the other sons and men, then the women and finally the children Last of all the babies. By then the water was so dirty you could actually lose someone in it. Hence the saying , "Don't throw the baby out with the bath water."

Houses had thatched roofs-thick straw-piled high, with no wood underneath.
It was the only place for animals to get warm, so all the cats and other small animals (mice, bugs) lived in the roof. When it rained it became slippery and sometimes the animals would slip and off the roof. Hence the saying "It's raining cats and dogs."
There was nothing to stop things from falling into the house. This posed a real
problem in the bedroom where bugs and other droppings could mess up your nice clean bed Hence, a bed with big posts and a sheet hung over the top afforded some protection.  That's how canopy beds came into existence.

The floor was dirt. Only the wealthy had something other than dirt. Hence the saying
"dirt poor." The wealthy had slate floors that would get slippery in the winter when wet, so they spread thresh (straw) on floor to help keep their footing. As the winter wore on, they added more thresh until when you opened the door it would all start slipping outside. A piece of wood! was placed in the entranceway. Hence the saying a "thresh hold."

In those old days, they cooked in the kitchen with a big kettle that always hung over the fire. Every day they lit the fire and added things to the pot. They ate mostly vegetables and did not get much meat. They would eat the stew for dinner, leaving leftovers in the pot to get cold ght and then start over the next day. Sometimes stew had food in it that had been there for quite a while.  Hence the rhyme, "Peas porridge hot, peas porridge cold, peas porridge in the pot nine days old."

Sometimes they could obtain pork, which made them feel quite special. When visitors
came over, they would hang up their bacon to show off It was a sign of wealth that a man could "bring home the bacon." They would cut off a little to share with guests and would all sit round and "chew the fat."

Those with money had plates made of pewter. Food with high acid content caused
some of the lead to leach onto the food, causing lead poisoning death. This happened most often with tomatoes, so for the next 400 years or so, tomatoes were considered poisonous.

Bread was divided according to status. Workers got the burnt bottom of the loaf, the
 
family got the middle, and guests got the top, or "upper crust"

Lead cups were used to drink ale or whisky. The combination would sometimes knock
the imbibers out for a couple of days. Someone walking along the road would take them for dead and prepare them for burial They were laid out on the kitchen table for a couple of days and the family would gather around and eat and drink and wait and see if they would wake up. Hence the custom of holding a "wake."



Ireland is old and small and the local folks started running out of places to bury people.
So they would dig up coffins and would take the bones to a "bone-house" and reuse the grave. When reopening these coffins, 1 out of 25 coffins were found to have scratch marks on the inside and they realized they had been burying people alive. So they would tie a string on the wrist of the corpse, lead it through The coffin and up through the ground and tie it to a bell. Someone would have to sit out in the graveyard all night (the "graveyard shift") to listen for the bell; thus, someone could be "saved by the Bell " or was considered a "dead ringer."



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JB,


Thanks for the very interesting posting. You obviously had a much better guide at Ross Castle that I did. I had to actually tell my guide some of the history myself! Hopefully she learned something and passed it along to her next tour group.


On the other hand, my guide at Cahir Castle was wonderful. It just depends on who you get.


Michele



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Hi Michele,


Last time I was in Ireland was 2000 (first visit) and everything anyone had told me about it, beuaty aside, was not what I experienced. I believe much of this was due to the kitten stage of the Celtic tiger and many of the heritage projects were finally finished and everything was fresh and new. Most of the guides (Ross Castle, Rock of Cashel, Jerpoint Abbey) were young college women majoring in history or some other liberal arts program and they were mature, eloquent and most informative. The guide at Ft. Charles was so good, 2 people on the tour had asthma attacks when he decribed the cramped sleeping conditions of the soldiers. Pat Tynnan not only gave a great tour of Kilkenny, he displayed that famous Irish wit that, at times, says "go to hell" and you actually look forward to the trip. Our docent at the Hunt museum was knoweldgable, irreverant and very warm, perhaps because only two of us opted to take his tour and ask him for more information. We got a lot of dirt


Same went for the food. Had only one bad meal because I ignored the first rule of pubs (3 or less guys just watching TV and you walk out) Granted that was our first meal, in Ennis, and I was so naive to the sound of a brogue that I did not want to ask folks to repeat their directions to "the good place." That evening, we had a terrific dinner at a restaurant next to the Burren Smoke House, run by a young couple from Burgundy.


Stayed in 14 B&B's or farm houses (way too many in retrospect) and only had one bad night in Kilrush. I think the place was called Not Care For Ya House. Could have been worse; innkeeper could have been a serial killer.


Well, that's yesterday's fishwrap and we are looking forward to our upcoming adventure. I'll check your book but the cousins want to have a first-night dinner in Galway. Might you know of a quiet place since we have never met before and I am deaf in one ear. It's the right ear, so it will be the first time I will hear what Linda has to say while I am driving. I'm sure "go left" will be a large part of the conversation.


Thanks again,


jb



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JB,

I had a very nice dinner at Kirby's in Galway a couple of years ago. The tables in the upstairs dining room are well spaced. Many Irish restaurants tend to pack the tables really close together. I suppose they want to fit more people in. It might suit your needs.

Michele



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Sounds good, Michele...been looking at Da Robata and The Galleon since they seem to be in walking distance from Lawndale. Any input on these two places?

Thanks again,

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The Galleon is one of those places that is always packed, noisy and not what you are looking for. Ask Margaret when you are there. She will have other suggestions for you.

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